Re: The Crypto State

2001-04-25 Thread Ray Dillinger
Hey Tim. I've got a great idea. Let's ignore each other. Bear

Re: The Crypto State

2001-04-24 Thread Ken Brown
Ray Dillinger wrote: [...that he wasn't talking about anarchy...] The only real difference is that the functions of government are distributed instead of being vested in particular people. Which is pretty near a definition of anarchy according to my anarchist friends. [...] Bell's AP

Re: The Crypto State

2001-04-24 Thread Declan McCullagh
Yep. Brands' book is out from MIT Press, so it's even accessible. (Well, relatively accessible; I keep planning on finishing it RSN.) For someone to ask on cypherpunks for pointers to basic crypto concepts and ignoring reading lists is like someone posting to a political mailing list and asking

Re: The Crypto State

2001-04-23 Thread Tim May
At 11:48 PM -0700 4/22/01, Ray Dillinger wrote: I have been studying cryptographic protocols for consensus action of late, and I have come to a somewhat startling conclusion. If a society is sufficiently rich in cryptographic protocols, there is no need for anyone to work for a government. Cf.

Re: The Crypto State

2001-04-23 Thread Ray Dillinger
into a war against their will if the laws requiring that get passed. In nature, a crypto state is not necessarily any more free than a republic, or a democracy (you use the term sheepocracy to denote the tyranny of the majority problem), or even a centrally- planned socialist state. It *has

Re: The Crypto State

2001-04-23 Thread Tim May
others. In fact, acts of rebellion and rage are the single worst possible thing that could be done, and will actively prevent a crypto state from arising. Bell's AP paper may not have been where the seed came from originally, but aside from pointers at some science-fiction books with zero technical