OSINT distributed haven (Intellagora)

2001-05-02 Thread Aimee Farr
From Aftergood's Secrecy News INTELLIGENCE AND THE OPEN SOURCE CHALLENGE The U.S. intelligence community is belatedly recognizing that it has failed to fully exploit the availability of open source intelligence and that remedial steps to correct this problem should be a

Re: layered deception

2001-05-02 Thread Greg Broiles
At 12:34 AM 5/2/2001 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Greg Broiles wrote: Hmm. Can you identify any problems with log files as evidence which aren't also present in, say, eyewitness testimony, audiotape recordings, video recordings, fingerprints, photographs, tool die marks, paper records, and

cypherpunks in Desert Island gaming scenario

2001-05-02 Thread Faustine
Heres a gaming scenario from Susan Stranges States and Markets (1988) called Desert Island, which I modified to be more relevant and interesting to the list by throwing a group of cypherpunks into the mix. I think it's a useful way to think about issues related to international political

RE: OSINT distributed haven (Intellagora)

2001-05-02 Thread Aimee Farr
Zakas: This reminds me of a story i heard (from one of the planners) about the us invasion of grenada in 1983. intelligence agencies didn't have a recent map of the island and satellite images aren't very good for identifying street names, etc. the only maps available of the island were

biochemwomdterror in dc

2001-05-02 Thread Declan McCullagh
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE May 1, 2001 For More Information Contact: Andrea Andrews (202) 224-6518 WASHINGTON, DC - U.S. Senator Richard C. Shelby (R-AL), Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, will hold a press conference Wednesday, May 2 to discuss

RE: cypherpunks in Desert Island gaming scenario

2001-05-02 Thread Tim May
At 6:05 PM -0400 5/2/01, Faustine wrote: Quoting Sandy Sandfort [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Count me out. The trouble with games theory is that the outcome is pretty much dictated by the rules established by the game designer. It's intuitively obvious that the given scenarios are artificial

Re: Undermining government power and authority

2001-05-02 Thread James A. Donald
-- At 03:00 PM 5/1/2001 -0700, David Honig wrote: The sheeple can be shown arguments they understand, like: if you were evil entity, wouldn't you be motivated to insert privacy affront here. This can alert them. Then they would promptly vote for a government commissar of privacy, to

Re: Undermining government power and authority

2001-05-02 Thread James A. Donald
-- 1. That's for saying I come across like a full-bore paranoid. At 07:22 PM 4/30/2001 -0400, Faustine wrote: I wasn't speaking about you in particular AT ALL. So all of us are full bore paranoids? Your catty insults, incessant put downs, and your patronizing flattery are equally

RE: layered deception

2001-05-02 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Eric Murray wrote: ...I most definitely agree with Tim and Bill that the best way to deal with this is [keeping logs] thru technology. Careful, you're beginning to sound like a Cypherpunk. :-D S a n d y