How the Feds will try to ban strong anonymity

2000-10-08 Thread Declan McCullagh
I wrote in another thread: framework to reasonably exist. Cypherpunkish technology will create underground markets, anonymous distribution methods, and so on, and the only way to enforce such regulations will be for the Feds/Mounties to take drastic steps. (For instance, strong anonymity is an

Re: How the Feds will try to ban strong anonymity

2000-10-08 Thread Steve Furlong
Declan McCullagh wrote: ... Restricting strong anonymity means key escrow.) Perhaps I overstated my argument above. It seems to me that if the Feds want to restrict strong anonymity, they have some choices: the choices Anything else? Routinely monitor communications lines. Allow

Re: Comments on and about e-privacy in Canada

2000-10-08 Thread Tim May
At 1:55 AM -0400 10/8/00, Declan McCullagh wrote: I do hope Robert thinks through this. Or maybe this is another example of cypherpunk thinking not meshing well with Canada. Austin of ZKS spoke Wednesday here in DC, and his comments are relayed to me from another speaker who is sympathetic to

Re: How the Feds will try to ban strong anonymity

2000-10-08 Thread Jim Dixon
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Steve Furlong wrote: In general, look at what China is doing. Britain and Russia, too. Britain is doing a lot less than you seem to think. The RIP act has been passed, but to a rising chorus of protests from all sides, including industry. Actual implementation of the bill

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2000-10-08 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 12:19 AM 08/10/00 -0400, James A.. Donald wrote: So are you claiming that this alleged evidence seemingly cited by Chomsky exists, or are you denying that Chomsky claimed the existence of this evidence? 06:51 PM 10/7/2000 -1000, Reese wrote: Learn how to read - and

Re: How the Feds will try to ban strong anonymity

2000-10-08 Thread David Honig
At 02:39 AM 10/8/00 -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: Require ISPs to get a license to operate. Terms can be set arbitrarily high. (Bonus points if you make them pay for the monitoring hardware, software, and governmental labor.) Wasn't a "license to drive" on the "info superhighway" bandied about

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Re: How the Feds will try to ban strong anonymity

2000-10-08 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 03:33 PM 10/8/2000 -0400, David Honig wrote: Wasn't a "license to drive" on the "info superhighway" bandied about when the latter term was sickeningly popular? Everything on the internet is a packet with a destination address and a return address. To create a police state on the

Re: RC4 - To license or not?

2000-10-08 Thread Alan Olsen
At 09:27 AM 10/8/00 -0700, Greg Broiles wrote: On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 03:12:20AM +0200, Stefan Arentz wrote: Real-To: Stefan Arentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Applied Crypto says this about RC4. So what's the deal with RC4? It's no longer a trade secret, so presumably anyone can use it.

Re: How the Feds will try to ban strong anonymity

2000-10-08 Thread Alan Olsen
At 04:30 PM 10/8/00 -0400, you wrote: -- At 03:33 PM 10/8/2000 -0400, David Honig wrote: Wasn't a "license to drive" on the "info superhighway" bandied about when the latter term was sickeningly popular? Everything on the internet is a packet with a destination address and a return

Re: How the Feds will try to ban strong anonymity

2000-10-08 Thread Alan Olsen
At 03:33 PM 10/8/00 -0400, you wrote: At 02:39 AM 10/8/00 -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: Require ISPs to get a license to operate. Terms can be set arbitrarily high. (Bonus points if you make them pay for the monitoring hardware, software, and governmental labor.) Wasn't a "license to drive" on

Re: Non-Repudiation in the Digital Environment (was Re: First Monday August 2000)

2000-10-08 Thread Ben Laurie
Bram Cohen wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Ben Laurie wrote: Since we're in hair-splitting mode, I should point out that "prevents the denial of an act" is not equivalent to a "negation that something is false". Of course, logically, it comes to the same thing, but then, so does

Re: Comments on and about e-privacy in Canada

2000-10-08 Thread jim bell
- Original Message - From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Canadian Cryptography Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Cypherpunks Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 22:55 PM Subject: Re: Comments on and about e-privacy in Canada

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Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-08 Thread Reese
At 01:19 PM 08/10/00 -0400, James A.. Donald wrote: -- At 12:19 AM 08/10/00 -0400, James A.. Donald wrote: So are you claiming that this alleged evidence seemingly cited by Chomsky exists, or are you denying that Chomsky claimed the existence of this evidence? 06:51 PM

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