On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 09:44 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Parochial issues like privacy, maybe?
Frankly, even before 9/11 I thought privacy was, like, rilly, rilly
scary and all! It scares me to think about what people are doing under
the cloak of privacy. So, like, I'm happy
On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 09:23 PM, Steve Furlong wrote:
Declan McCullagh wrote:
When you have 99-1 votes in the Senate
(http://www.politechbot.com/p-02651.html), can anyone seriously say
that either the Democrats or Republicans can be trusted to preserve
our privacy and follow
At 10:21 PM 10/23/01 +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Of course I know how to use a killfile! I killfiled all you idiots
long ago, but your names and trivial ideas keep getting quoted by
all the important people, AND I JUST CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE!.
Then kill yourself and be done with it. If the
Who knows how many predictions he's made over the years, or the
black book he looks them up in after a drawing, so he knows where
(whether) to call the press conference.
At 04:40 PM 10/24/01 -0700, Lucky Green wrote:
It would have been more impressive had Copperfield revealed the
numbers he
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 12:35:19AM -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 02:14 AM 10/25/2001 +, Dr. Evil wrote:
Right, exactly. When Starium was first announced, people were excited
because it sounded like we were going to get industrial-strength stuff
at consumer prices. That isn't reality,
Jim Choate wrote:
...When the US falls
...
The key point to a bloodless fall will be the military saying 'I
think we'll sit this one out, thank you very much.'
And a major key to that is militarily useful weaponry in the hands of
the citizens.
It would be nice to think that most US soldiers
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:06:41PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
So, who're the Senate holdouts? 90+ votes means a filibuster's
impossible under cloture rules, no?
Yes, a filibuster won't stand much chance, but bringing the bill to
the floor on unanimous consent won't work either. The Senate
Dozens of government agencies have rushed to pull sensitive
information off their websites and Google has backed their efforts by
clearing the cache of shuttered websites from its search engines, a
Google spokeswoman said.
Suppression Stifles Some Sites
Declan writes:
I happened to hear from Lee Caplin of Starium today. ...
Also, Lee says Starium has filed for patents on a desk phone, answering
machine and conference phone.
One wonders what they have that is patentable. Given that we've been
using
laptops with PGPfone/Nautilus/SpeakFreely for
10. Pentagon under pressure to delay or divide Joint Strike Fighter contract
By Brody Mullins, CongressDaily
Supporters of the Boeing Co., bracing for yet another big loss, are
pressuring the Pentagon to delay or divvy up a massive new contract for
next-generation fighter jets to replace the
Though the article was somewhat silly, or partisan, or both, in places.
Excerpt:
The Republicans oppose it as they oppose all taxes, especially ones
that could harm the key industries--and important political
contributors.
Republicans opposing all taxes? Right. Whatever.
-Declan
On Thu, Oct
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO65026,00.html
This guy (Ponemon) needs a basic math lesson ...
...
Ponemon criticized the federal government for not doing enough to ensure the
FTC could enforce privacy infractions. Recent increases in the FTC's budget
aren't enough, he
Do you know the URL address of this new Internet archive?
Pier Carlo
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On 22 Oct 2001, at 23:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My understanding
(from questioning on this topic in the distant past with an
MD/shrink) is that the sodium
thiopental/pentobarbital/etc. truth serum is an urban
legend. He was quite specific that the drug was a definite
aid to
well
too f'n bad, huh?
first, allegations of torture, then a bindi-brain
eats his final fallafel, now on the way to Heaven on
his 2 hump magic camel, 2 for redundancy... heaven is
far i understand and hard to get to for such a limited
clientele of muslims.
regardless of human rights, what about
At 01:04 PM 10/25/2001 -0700, Onin wal-a bin Hakkin wrote:
if you are incarcerated for a fucked up deed you shouldnt
expect to be put in the hilton. is this not a universal
idea and accepted?
jailprisontheklink is supposed to SUCK.
[...]
i ask you, am i a bad person for feeling this way?
What
--
On 25 Oct 2001, at 0:00, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
A bare one objection to comprehensive market based
security: a market needs private property, and other civil
rights, in order to function efficiently, as predicted.
Protection is what guarantees those rights. If you place
protection
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And if we place food on the market, we no longer have a guarantee that
anyone will be able to eat :-)
Of course. The point is, the market can work perfectly well in the absence
of sufficient nutrition for all of the participants. This does not hold
hm yes, you are correct.
he wasnt incarcerated.
never mind that other part then.
but in all candor, dont ya think
that if a guy is there who SHOULDNT
be there, he wouldnt be there
after a decent timeframe of investigation?
notwithstanding other manners of recent
injustices of justice, i.e.,
Greg,
Welcome to America's New Era.
Goebels, Himmler and the rest of the team are reincarnated.
Welcome back to meatspace Gentlemen, it's been far too long!
What organizations will be challenging the Constitutionality of at least
sections of the soon to be recent Gestapo Act?
Who has
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Steve Furlong wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
...When the US falls
...
The key point to a bloodless fall will be the military saying 'I
think we'll sit this one out, thank you very much.'
And a major key to that is militarily useful weaponry in the hands of
the
take me to UR leader, i need his
permission 2 ask the list a question
need password in order to own/root
constitution so i can slip in
/bin/laden/findme.pl
if U can do this 4 me it would B 3l33t
any suggestions?
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Sunder wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
Transitive means that A mounts B, C mounts A and gets B free. Plan 9 does
this, managed by a set of authorization layers for fine control, native.
This could be bad. Say B doesn't want to allow access to C
Onin wal-a bin Hakkin wrote:
but in all candor, dont ya think
that if a guy is there who SHOULDNT
be there, he wouldnt be there
after a decent timeframe of investigation?
If you were innocent of any crime and were thrown in the slammer with bad
people and given no opportunity to contact
A. Melon wrote:
any suggestions?
Yes, take a remedial reading course and then read Flesch's WRITING PLAIN
ENGLISH.
S a n d y
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Come on Onin, watch the numbers skyrocket after
Bush signs off on Ashcroft's wet dream. The US
has the most bloated justice industry in the world,
far bigger than any in history, and the spate of bills
appearing will fatten these pigs beyond anything
seen in the commie and fascist regimes. We are
Listen, its not a return to fascism.
Not by any stretch, so unbunch your
panties.
unbunch(panties);
Some Americans are tired of being
stepped on.
Me in particular.
Its way different than the inferrence
you infer.
I am sure that we agree on the same
stuff, we just dont agree on how to
get
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If you start at zero, 50% is only 50 cents, Ponemon said.
Where did he learn math, I wonder?
Marc de Piolenc
What's this then?
http://www.tactronix.com/s100.htm
-MW-
Looks like a nicely rendered computer image of the proposed device (somebody
there is good with POV-Ray?).
-Neil
Dilbert's been visiting the Trolls In Accounting,
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Now he's on a tour, and the troll is showing him their random number generator.
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At 10:54 AM 10/25/01 -0700, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
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At 02:14 AM 10/25/2001 +, Dr. Evil wrote:
Right, exactly. When Starium was first announced, people were excited
because it sounded like we were going to get industrial-strength stuff
at consumer prices. That isn't reality, and now they are going to
sell industrial-strength stuff at
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Jim Choate wrote:
We need to send a message that armed propaganda is not an acceptable
form of self-expression, no matter what the alleged cause.
Review the American revolution and the current news before you follow this
little meme very far.
..and your point is...?
Marc de Piolenc
Jim Choate wrote:
But Nato's escape clause won't work this time round. For as the Afghan
refugees turn up in their thousands at the border, it is palpably evident
that they are fleeing not the Taliban but our bombs and missiles. The
Taliban is not ethnically cleansing its own Pashtun
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I'm not sure I agree that WE are providing the rope
to the ropers. It seems rather that the ropers are taking the rope while
everyone else stands by without objection, blinded by tears, anger and
fear.
I find the difference here to be
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on Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 02:31:42PM -0400, Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Attorney General John Ashcroft
Prepared Remarks for the US Mayors Conference
October 25, 2001
...
Within days of the September 11 attacks, we launched this
anti_terrorism offensive to prevent
In dishonor of his namesake father and the possible historical irony I suggest that
from now on we call our current commander in chief King George II and refer to his
politcal and law enforcement henchmen as Pop Tories.
On Thursday, October 25, 2001, at 08:42 PM, Mark Talbot wrote:
Dangerous? Yes, there are dangers to a mandatory national I.D. card,
but
there may be greater dangers without one. The fact is, to live in a
society
as vulnerable as ours, we may have to give up something - but I
disagree
At 03:22 PM 10/25/01 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Though the article was somewhat silly, or partisan, or both, in places.
Excerpt:
The Republicans oppose it as they oppose all taxes, especially ones
that could harm the key industries--and important political
contributors.
Republicans
On Thursday, October 25, 2001, at 08:42 PM, Mark Talbot wrote:
Dangerous? Yes, there are dangers to a mandatory national I.D. card,
but
there may be greater dangers without one. The fact is, to live in a
society
as vulnerable as ours, we may have to give up something - but I
disagree
Neil Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
What's this then?
http://www.tactronix.com/s100.htm
-MW-
Looks like a nicely rendered computer image of the proposed device (somebody
there is good with POV-Ray?).
-Neil
Too expensive.
interesting trivia for the biowar inclined :-)
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This has got to be the single scariest thing I have *ever* read from any
government official. After reading this, I doubt that the nuclear
winter comments that have been bandied about are going to be very far off
their mark...
It especially terrifying to note that this speech specifically
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Subject: FC: James Glassman wants national IDs: We have to give up privacy
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:17:23 -0400
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
This has got to be the single scariest thing I have *ever* read from any
government official. After reading this, I doubt that the nuclear
winter comments that have been bandied about are going to be very far off
their mark...
It especially terrifying to note that
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