Link between Masons and NSA revealed!

2001-11-25 Thread Peter Wayner
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61372-2001Nov20.html

Link between Masons and NSA revealed!

2001-11-25 Thread Peter Wayner
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61372-2001Nov20.html

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Re: Link between Masons and NSA revealed!

2001-11-25 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, November 25, 2001, at 05:24 AM, Peter Wayner wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61372-2001Nov20.html Thanks! That's a very detailed and well-written article. I was just skimming through a new book on the Masons; mostly I read about the period when cathedrals

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Re: Ridiculous Airline Security Story N+1 and N+2...

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Re: Ridiculous Airline Security Story N+1 and N+2...

2001-11-25 Thread David Honig
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2001-11-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
What makes you, Incognito, believe the DMCA may criminalize the publication of a scientific paper? What makes you believe that Niels Ferguson's worry was not hyperbole, or a PR stunt designed to garner press? What makes you think that a scientific paper would generate even civil liability? The

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2001-11-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
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2001-11-25 Thread measl
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2001-11-25 Thread Tim May
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Re: Moving beyond Reputation--the Market View of Reality

2001-11-25 Thread Gabriel Rocha
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Re: Moving beyond Reputation--the Market View of Reality

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2001-11-25 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
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2001-11-25 Thread Lucky Green
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Re: Moving beyond Reputation--the Market View of Reality

2001-11-25 Thread David Honig
At 03:05 PM 11/25/01 -0800, Tim May wrote: For many years some of us have argued strongly for reputation as a core concept. Someone, perhaps even one of our own, even coined the phrase reputation capital. I recently posted how ground squirrels have rep cap. Reputation is an easily

Re: Moving beyond Reputation--the Market View of Reality

2001-11-25 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, November 25, 2001, at 07:30 PM, David Honig wrote: At 03:05 PM 11/25/01 -0800, Tim May wrote: For many years some of us have argued strongly for reputation as a core concept. Someone, perhaps even one of our own, even coined the phrase reputation capital. I recently posted how

Re: Pricing Mojo, Integrating PGP, TAZ, and D.C. Cypherpunks

2001-11-25 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, November 25, 2001, at 07:05 PM, Lucky Green wrote: Greg wrote: That's very warm and fuzzy and hippy-like, but if these tokens are handed out for free, then what, exactly, is their value? I think the Extropians did something like that, which ended in some sort of fiasco which

Re: HDCP break and DMCA

2001-11-25 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, November 25, 2001, at 06:51 PM, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: Tim May wrote: There were signs up about not violating copyright law, but these professor packs were in clear violation. Really? Sounds to me like they fall under Fair Use. That provision specifically exempts copying for

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RE: True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier

2001-11-25 Thread Lucky Green
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Re: True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier

2001-11-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
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