Meyer Wolfsheim wrote in reply:
Do you know how many messages are going through the
remailer network
now? How many do you think the average remailer processes in a day?
I'm assuming 5-10K/day. I don't know what Tim and others
discussed at the meeting that Tim references. Ask him.
No, no. AP is funny because it's impracticeable. One does not find an
assassin exclusively by tracing who paid him to kill. One can (and often
does) find him because he makes a mistake in the act of commiting the
crime. Which, if I'm reading my history right, is what's hampered the
noisy
I'm inserting attributions and reformatting cited text, since you
seem incapable of quoting in a legible manner. I'm also only
replying to the parts of this that particularly amuse me. You should
be aware that I'm not taking you seriously. Ordinarily, I wouldn't
feed the trolls, but I'm bored.
From: Ralph Wallis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Choates not a poster,he's a spamming menace.How longs he been here?
Choate
first post:
http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.1996.03.28-1996.04.03/
msg00034.html
Naw, he's been around longer than that. This is the earliest
message I can find:
Notes to articles:
Once again I am seeing eyewitness reports claiming more
U.S. Casualties. Yet I don't see simular reports in the U.S. Press
confirming or denying these claims.
Time will tell. Dead bodies have a tendency of piling up in Afganistan
and I have no doubt that if they do exist
non-robot CA master key handling). Use this key to sign a number of
This has been repeated ad nauseam, but obviously not frequently enough.
No one has been using CAs for anything serious and no one ever will.
Outside of circles of fashionable crypto, commercial scams like verisign and greedy
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:
Killing one person, especially a public official, pisses a whole
bunch of people off. Those people have a tendency to come find
their buddy's killer.
No kind of real or threatened assassination can weaken a government
in which a majority
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Ralph Wallis wrote:
On Thursday, 13 Dec 2001 at 03:33, mattd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Disgruntled cypherpunk of the Year. me,when I find out this is not about
an axe attack on tim may
Choates not a poster,he's a spamming menace.How longs he been here?
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Gil Hamilton wrote:
It's interesting to note how much more pleasant Choate was in his
early days on the list. In those days, he was not so intent on
showing everyone that he was an authority on all possible subjects.
That was before I knew what kind of sharks swim in
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, AARG! Anonymous wrote:
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Strangers are secrets by definition, otherwise they wouldn't be strangers.
In fact it IS possible to exchange (anonymously to boot) secrets provided
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On 13 Dec 2001, at 7:04, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
Once again I am seeing eyewitness reports claiming more
U.S. Casualties. Yet I don't see simular reports in the
U.S. Press confirming or denying these claims.
The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.
In the US, unlike most other
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Jon Beets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
I still do not understand how we can support Israel as we do..From:
Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gosh - doesn't anyone like the United States anymore? Give the
fuckers
$3 billion a year in aid, and they elect a war criminal as their
Prime
Minister and
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I agree. I suspect this may be more propaganda then fact. The publishing
group is pro bin laden - or so claims the times of india.
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On 13 Dec 2001, at 7:04, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
Once again I am seeing eyewitness reports claiming more
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/23374.html
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If you check the Cypherpunks archives you'll find an 18 point answer to
that question I posted in the last year or so.
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so .. how do you propose the problems be fixed?
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, super ego wrote:
HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE?
HOW CAN YOU
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The controversy, rumours and speculation surrounding the FBI's Magic
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This should have gone directly to the cypherpunks list.
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The required registration for the draft in 1940 qualifies as 'identifying'
the soldiers.
http://www.colostate.edu/history/wwii9.htm
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
Bullshit, if they had birth certificates they were required to produce
them. And if you worked on the neuclear weapons then the FBI most
certainly did do a background check.
But of course they weren't required to have birth certificates. It also
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
Bullshit, if they had birth certificates they were required to produce
them. And if you worked on the neuclear weapons then the FBI most
certainly did do a background check.
But of course they weren't
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, mattd wrote:
If Womyn and Victims of Color think that it is tough to make it in an
advanced capitalist society, they should have tried doing it the way Dead
White European Males had to do it -- building an advanced capitalist
society out of ancient tyrannies from the
Would Declan be more effective in your mind if he started throwing
rocks at a MacDonalds arch on Pennsylvania Avenue? Somehow I see his
contributions to any movement I would be associated with as being a
little more worthwhile than what you have written/done that I have
read||about. --Gabe
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Kill a few savages
Mmm,I may have an extremely lucrative task for you,Ill get my PGP sorted
and get back to you,soon,real soon.
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 05:01:11PM -0800, Eric Cordian wrote:
OK. How about well-funded? :)
I count $1,270,000 in grants to the organization since its creation as the
Compared to giants like Brookings? Not well-funded, well-known, big,
nor
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man he will soon be testifying against had hoped for.
And so, charges will be dropped against the Russian
Faustine wrote:
Last year, Brookings had revenues of 29 million.
The RAND Corporation had revenues of 157 million.
One year, one hundred fifty seven million.
Their grants and contracts for last year alone totaled 142.7
million. Sort of adds a new dimension to the idea of being giant and
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Eric Cordian wrote:
I think we're kind of missing the point here. ACTA is well-funded for
being an annoying little pressure group that tries to increase the heat
around people who say things it doesn't approve of.
It's silly to compare its budget to Rand or SRI or
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:51:03AM +1100, mattd wrote:
You plugged that appearance here,thats my beef with you declan.I think you
should be blasted on this list for aligning in any way shape or form to a
twisted conservative mob that manufacture consent for corporate
polluters.We are
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
Actually 'merit' isn't. Merit is measured in a meritocracy by the efficacy
of the solution. That's a TECHNICAL measure, not emotional or social.
Yes, but someone somewhere is in charge of making the decision that
something is more or less efficient.
That's not coercion you moron, that's progress.
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Oh, you mean like the parable of the ants and the grasshopper? Where the
ants get the results of the work they put into it, and the grasshopper who
didn't do any work starves and freezes in the winter?
So now you're saying that the very thing you've had a problem in the past
with because it's
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Sunder wrote:
That's not coercion you moron, that's progress.
Actually it's both, they are NOT mutually exclusive.
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Sunder wrote:
So now you're saying that the very thing you've had a problem in the past
with because it's capitalism is now a good thing.
I don't have a problem with commerce per se. Capitalism I do have a
problem with, greed good.
Commerce Capitalism (which will come
At 05:10 PM 12/13/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
Which is beside your point. Your statement was that the government didn't
do ANY identification for ANY of the soldiers in WWII. Patently wrong.
Quit trying to change the rules in the middle of the game.
AFTER the war started, not before. When the
Libertarians like the folks at the Cato Institute are hardly
conservatives.
My beef with them is the money they take to lie.Ive given some examples in
the last few days that you may have been to busy to respond to.Many so
called 'libertarians' are social
Would Declan be more effective in your mind if he started throwing
rocks at a MacDonalds arch on Pennsylvania Avenue? Somehow I see his
contributions to any movement I would be associated with as being a
little more worthwhile than what you have written/done that I have
read||about. --Gabe
He
Faustine wrote:
Last year, Brookings had revenues of 29 million.
The RAND Corporation had revenues of 157 million.
One year, one hundred fifty seven million.
Cooincidentally, I bumped into *this*, today. Reminded me of the time, in
my teens, when I finally discovered exactly how much
It is clear that whatever ID procedures were in effect, they were not
effective. Many enlistees lied about their ages and got away with it.
Marc de Piolenc
Duncan Frissell wrote:
At 05:10 PM 12/13/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
Which is beside your point. Your statement was that the government
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At 09:40 PM 12/13/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
I don't have a problem with commerce per se. Capitalism I do have a
problem with, greed good.
Is the basic human drive to better one's circumstances bad, Jim?
...is supposedly uncrackable encryption, due to the law of indeterminacy.
Im a big booster for uncrackable encryption.Thats why Im confident of
crypto-anarchy sooner rather than later.
Singh is a good popularizer whose TV series was on here earlier this year.
UE could be an infinitely
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, mattd wrote:
have to choose soon between use of the words anarchy and punk and some
punk anarchy
'punk' actually means 'anti-establishment' and 'activist' in viewpoint.
anti-establishment/activist anarchy either.
The black leather and anarchy crap didn't 'happen' on
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
It is clear that whatever ID procedures were in effect, they were not
effective. Many enlistees lied about their ages and got away with it.
I have zero problem with that assertion.
However, lying about ones age and getting away with it is a far
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
It is clear that whatever ID procedures were in effect, they were not
effective. Many enlistees lied about their ages and got away with it.
At the time, insufficient age was an open secret for these so
afflicted. Warm bodies are what drive a
LONG RANT.FIR WARMING.
The Libertarian as Conservative. To me this is so obvious that I am hard
put to find something to say to people who still think libertarianism has
something to do with liberty. A libertarian is just a Republican who takes
drugs. I'd have preferred a more controversial
I am beginning to think that this whole thing is not so much
Cypherpunks vs. FBI as it is mullets vs. coolnecks. Obviously,
the average mullet is no more qualified to understand net and crypto
than the average coolneck is qualified to understand... well whatever
it is that the FBI does. This is
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