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Re: DOJ proposes US data-rentention law.

2002-06-20 Thread David G. Koontz
Trei, Peter wrote: - start quote - Cyber Security Plan Contemplates U.S. Data Retention Law http://online.securityfocus.com/news/486 Internet service providers may be forced into wholesale spying on their customers as part of the White House's strategy for securing cyberspace. By

Re: DOJ proposes US data-rentention law.

2002-06-20 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David G. Koontz writes: Trei, Peter wrote: - start quote - Cyber Security Plan Contemplates U.S. Data Retention Law http://online.securityfocus.com/news/486 Internet service providers may be forced into wholesale spying on their customers as part of the

Good quote on biometric ID

2002-06-20 Thread Peter Gutmann
I was reading a late-70's paper on computer security recently when I saw that it contains a nice quote about the futility of trying to use biometrics to prevent Sept.11-type attacks, I thought I'd share it with people: When a highway patrolman is sent to his duty, he has to be given the

CP meet at H2K2?

2002-06-20 Thread Greg Newby
H2K2, 2600's conference, is at Hotel Penn in New York July 12-14. http://www.h2k2.net CP contributors who are scheduled include John Young and yours truly. Maybe others I didn't recognize or see yet. I heard of a few other tentatives. The full conference schedule should be online within the

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McVeigh is Islamic Terrorist?

2002-06-20 Thread Wilfred L. Guerin
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legislators needing killing: trace = no BoRights

2002-06-20 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Listen to electronic dance music, lose your right to freely assemble. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/asm/ab_1901-1950/ab_1941_bill_20020515_amended_asm.html BILL NUMBER: AB 1941AMENDED BILL TEXT AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY MAY 15, 2002 AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY APRIL 4,

Re: DOJ proposes US data-rentention law.

2002-06-20 Thread David G. Koontz
Trei, Peter wrote: - start quote - Cyber Security Plan Contemplates U.S. Data Retention Law http://online.securityfocus.com/news/486 Internet service providers may be forced into wholesale spying on their customers as part of the White House's strategy for securing cyberspace. By

Good quote on biometric ID

2002-06-20 Thread Peter Gutmann
I was reading a late-70's paper on computer security recently when I saw that it contains a nice quote about the futility of trying to use biometrics to prevent Sept.11-type attacks, I thought I'd share it with people: When a highway patrolman is sent to his duty, he has to be given the

CP meet at H2K2?

2002-06-20 Thread Greg Newby
H2K2, 2600's conference, is at Hotel Penn in New York July 12-14. http://www.h2k2.net CP contributors who are scheduled include John Young and yours truly. Maybe others I didn't recognize or see yet. I heard of a few other tentatives. The full conference schedule should be online within the

Re: CDR: Re: DOJ proposes US data-rentention law.

2002-06-20 Thread measl
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, David G. Koontz wrote: Whats next, censorship? Yes. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than

McVeigh is Islamic Terrorist?

2002-06-20 Thread Wilfred L. Guerin
Oh yes, and the truely convincing propoganda flows... http://www.msnbc.com/news/769827.asp?0si=- Tim McVeigh is an Islamic Terrorist... Yes In Deed, a Deed for oil stock. Possibly it is time to realize he is actually a FBI affiliate, and go to the munitions store, can someone come pick me up?