You can help Protect the Pledge of Allegiance

2003-12-30 Thread Christian Family Coalition
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Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Scott Nelson wrote: d*b --- s where: d = stamp delay in seconds s = spam size in bytes b = bandwidth in bytes per second I don't understand this equation at all. It's the rate limiting factor that counts, not a combination of stamp speed + bandwidth. well, stamp speed is method of

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Alan Brown
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Eric S. Johansson wrote: But using your spam size, , the slowdown factor becomes roughly 73 times. So they would need 73 machines running full tilt all the time to regain their old throughput. Believe me, the professionals have enough 0wned machines that this is

You can help Protect the Pledge of Allegiance

2003-12-30 Thread Christian Family Coalition
From: Christian Family Coalition Protect the Pledge of Allegiance! For 226 years America and her flag have stood for Independence, Liberty, Freedom and Justice. Fellow Americans, let us join as one in our stand against terrorism and tyranny. Imagine the uplifting effect of four million

FW: [IP] FBI Issues Alert Against Almanac Carriers

2003-12-30 Thread Trei, Peter
My first thought on reading this was that it was from The Onion, but its real. I guess being well-informed is now a cause for suspicion, as it was in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Peter Trei -Original Message- From: Dave Farber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29,

Re: FW: [IP] FBI Issues Alert Against Almanac Carriers

2003-12-30 Thread Freematt357
In a message dated 12/30/2003 10:36:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My first thought on reading this was that it was from The Onion, but its real. I guess being well-informed is now a cause for suspicion, as it was in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Peter Trei You

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Jerrold Leichter
(The use of memory speed leads to an interesting notion: Functions that are designed to be differentially expensive on different kinds of fielded hardware. On a theoretical basis, of course, all hardware is interchangeable; but in practice, something differentially expensive to calculate on an

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2003-12-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
Ah, now I finally understand why the PRC is so down on the Falun Gong. 8-) http://www.falundafa.org/eng/falun.htm -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Richard Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Eric S. Johansson wrote: But using your spam size, , the slowdown factor becomes roughly 73 times. So they would need 73 machines running full tilt all the time to regain their old throughput. Believe me, the professionals

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 7:46 PM + 12/30/03, Richard Clayton wrote: where does our esteemed moderator get _his_ stamps from ? A whitelist for my friends, etc... Whitelist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Tim May
On Dec 30, 2003, at 1:01 PM, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 7:46 PM + 12/30/03, Richard Clayton wrote: where does our esteemed moderator get _his_ stamps from ? A whitelist for my friends, etc... We're not moderated. Get used to it. Or are people _again_ spamming the Cypherpunks list with crap

Re: Singers jailed for lyrics

2003-12-30 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 07:48 PM 12/26/03 -0500, Michael Kalus wrote: Then I guess you better start liberating the world. If I were a neocon asshole, I would. Instead, I regard liberation as a local task, and interfering with sovereignty as the initiation of force, ie an act of war. Nice... So in the US you have :

Re: Singers jailed for lyrics

2003-12-30 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:52 AM 12/27/03 -0500, Michael Kalus wrote: So a question for you: If I want to write a book on the history of the swastika, or teach about the holocuast in Germany, do I need a license or something? (And let's just assume I have a politically correct view.) To my understanding

Re: Singers jailed for lyrics

2003-12-30 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 30 Dec 2003 at 17:56, Major Variola (ret) wrote: If I were a neocon asshole, I would. Instead, I regard liberation as a local task, and interfering with sovereignty as the initiation of force, Interfering with sovereignty is not an initiation of force. The ruler has no property

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Bill Stewart
At 07:46 PM 12/30/2003 +, Richard Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [what about mailing lists] Obviously you'd have to whitelist anybody's list you're joining if you don't want your spam filters to robo-discard it. moan I never understand why people think spam is a technical problem :( let

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Tim May
(I have removed the various other mailing lists. People, please stop cross-posting to all of Hettinga's lists, plus Perrypunks, plus this CAM-RAM list.) On Dec 30, 2003, at 7:11 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: At 07:46 PM 12/30/2003 +, Richard Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [what about mailing

Re: [IP] FBI Issues Alert Against Almanac Carriers

2003-12-30 Thread Tim May
On Dec 30, 2003, at 7:30 AM, Trei, Peter wrote: My first thought on reading this was that it was from The Onion, but its real. I guess being well-informed is now a cause for suspicion, as it was in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Well, they've been working on the mountains of skulls in Iraq (of

[no subject]

2003-12-30 Thread whellman
Tim May wrote: So, I expect that even as I write CIA toxins experts are preparing what will make Saddam go away the quiet way. Look for him to go of natural causes before any War Crimes Tribunal can ever actually happen. Wouldn't that be completely obvious? If Saddam just happened to die of

Re: [IP] FBI Issues Alert Against Almanac Carriers

2003-12-30 Thread whellman
Hrm, apologies for the piss-poor formatting (or so it appears to me) and lack of subject line in my last post (reproduced below with better formatting (I hope)). I'm stuck using a webmail interface for the time being and I've not quite gotten used to it yet. Wes Hellman Tim May wrote: So, I

FW: [IP] FBI Issues Alert Against Almanac Carriers

2003-12-30 Thread Trei, Peter
My first thought on reading this was that it was from The Onion, but its real. I guess being well-informed is now a cause for suspicion, as it was in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Peter Trei -Original Message- From: Dave Farber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29,

Re: FW: [IP] FBI Issues Alert Against Almanac Carriers

2003-12-30 Thread Freematt357
In a message dated 12/30/2003 10:36:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My first thought on reading this was that it was from The Onion, but its real. I guess being well-informed is now a cause for suspicion, as it was in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Peter Trei You

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Scott Nelson wrote: d*b --- s where: d = stamp delay in seconds s = spam size in bytes b = bandwidth in bytes per second I don't understand this equation at all. It's the rate limiting factor that counts, not a combination of stamp speed + bandwidth. well, stamp speed is method of

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Alan Brown
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Eric S. Johansson wrote: But using your spam size, , the slowdown factor becomes roughly 73 times. So they would need 73 machines running full tilt all the time to regain their old throughput. Believe me, the professionals have enough 0wned machines that this is

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2003-12-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
Ah, now I finally understand why the PRC is so down on the Falun Gong. 8-) http://www.falundafa.org/eng/falun.htm -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Richard Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Eric S. Johansson wrote: But using your spam size, , the slowdown factor becomes roughly 73 times. So they would need 73 machines running full tilt all the time to regain their old throughput. Believe me, the professionals

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 7:46 PM + 12/30/03, Richard Clayton wrote: where does our esteemed moderator get _his_ stamps from ? A whitelist for my friends, etc... Whitelist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation

Re: [IP] FBI Issues Alert Against Almanac Carriers

2003-12-30 Thread Tim May
On Dec 30, 2003, at 7:30 AM, Trei, Peter wrote: My first thought on reading this was that it was from The Onion, but its real. I guess being well-informed is now a cause for suspicion, as it was in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Well, they've been working on the mountains of skulls in Iraq (of

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2003-12-30 Thread Tim May
(I have removed the various other mailing lists. People, please stop cross-posting to all of Hettinga's lists, plus Perrypunks, plus this CAM-RAM list.) On Dec 30, 2003, at 7:11 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: At 07:46 PM 12/30/2003 +, Richard Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [what about mailing

[no subject]

2003-12-30 Thread whellman
Tim May wrote: So, I expect that even as I write CIA toxins experts are preparing what will make Saddam go away the quiet way. Look for him to go of natural causes before any War Crimes Tribunal can ever actually happen. Wouldn't that be completely obvious? If Saddam just happened to die of

Re: Singers jailed for lyrics

2003-12-30 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:52 AM 12/27/03 -0500, Michael Kalus wrote: So a question for you: If I want to write a book on the history of the swastika, or teach about the holocuast in Germany, do I need a license or something? (And let's just assume I have a politically correct view.) To my understanding