Re: International meet on cryptology in Chennai

2004-12-21 Thread Sarad AV
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Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: Agreed, if you want And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what it boils down to. You *want* things your own way, but you are too fucking spoiled to fight fo it - so instead you whine and moan. Put up or shut up. Either you fight

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: Well, there's a TINY little hole in your logic here... Scale of distance is the only difference. Either you support the system or you don't. I don't: I either drive to jobs (charging for mileage) or I pass on them, rather than take part in the

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A Bronx Curbside Whisper: 'Hey, Need a Tuneup?'

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://nytimes.com/2004/12/19/nyregion/19bronx.html?pagewanted=printposition= The New York Times December 19, 2004 A Bronx Curbside Whisper: 'Hey, Need a Tuneup?' BY ANDREA ELLIOTT he men saunter up and down a littered block of Third Avenue in the Bronx, casting sidelong glances at passing

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Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Tyler Durden
JAT wrote... You keep asserting this, but at the same time fail to provide an example. Please show how flying can easily be a requirement, not an option. One legitimate example will suffice. Later. (Actually, I didn't 'keep asserting this', but that's a separate matter) So, your position is

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'Video Miners' Use Hidden Cameras in Stores

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB110357897849105150,00.html The Wall Street Journal December 21, 2004 MARKETING 'Video Miners' Use Hidden Cameras in Stores 'Video Miners' Use Cameras Hidden in Stores to Analyze Who Shops, What They Like By JOSEPH PEREIRA Staff Reporter of

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: put it this way it starts to make some sense. In other words, avoiding travel whenever possible will (when added to sheeple starting to do the same because of all the terible screening stories) eventually start putting some squeeze on the airlines. I

Roads Gone Wild: No street signs. No crosswalks. No accidents.

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.12/traffic_pr.html Wired 12.12: Roads Gone Wild No street signs. No crosswalks. No accidents. Surprise: Making driving seem more dangerous could make it safer. By Tom McNichol Hans Monderman is a traffic engineer who hates traffic signs. Oh, he can put

E-protection necessary for nation's security: Kalam

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnewsid=49160 p E-protection necessary for nation's security: Kalam [Business India]: Chennai, Dec 21 : India was moving into an era of e-business, e-marketing, e-commerce and e-banking and encryption technology to protect network

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Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
[Note, I'm on the list, and I don't need two copies of every message in this thread] On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 06:34 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: Agreed, if you want And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what it boils down to.

Re: RAH's postings.

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 10:23 AM -0500 12/21/04, Somebody wrote: What the hell does an article about gypsy mechanics have to do with cypherpunks? I plead anarchic markets, m'lord. Emerging phenomena, and all that, in spite all regulation to the contrary. Which was why I sent the traffic thing as well. No laws (or

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:57:08AM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: If you *need* to get to Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc., driving, riding Greyhound, or riding Amtrak are NOT OPTIONS. Emigration is always an option, though. Quite a few have done that already. -- Eugen* Leitl a

Border Patrol hails new ID system

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20041220-103705-9177r The Washington Times www.washingtontimes.com Border Patrol hails new ID system By Jerry Seper THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published December 21, 2004 Border Patrol agents assigned to U.S. Customs and Border Protection

Re: RAH's postings.

2004-12-21 Thread Tyler Durden
I actually found the mechanics' article quite interesting. I think it's what anarchy starts to look like in the real world...ie, there are still laws 'somewhere', but they end up functioning like a 'value add' or quality control. I've argued on numerous occasions that NYC already has some very

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Justin
On 2004-12-21T10:38:10-0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: put it this way it starts to make some sense. In other words, avoiding travel whenever possible will (when added to sheeple starting to do the same because of all the terible screening stories)

[i2p] weekly status notes [dec 21] (fwd from jrandom@i2p.net)

2004-12-21 Thread Eugen Leitl
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Re: RAH's postings.

2004-12-21 Thread Anonymous
Someone wrote: At 10:23 AM -0500 12/21/04, Somebody wrote: RAH, if you want to anonymize a quoted email, it helps if you remove the In-Reply-To: and References: headers. What the hell does an article about gypsy mechanics have to do with cypherpunks? I plead anarchic markets, m'lord.

Re: RAH's postings.

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 11:47 PM +0100 12/21/04, Anonymous wrote: RAH, if you want to anonymize a quoted email, it helps if you remove the In-Reply-To: and References: headers. Doh. Not the first time that's happened, either. *Gotta* remember that cut and paste thing... Yours in header suppression, RAH --

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Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004

2004-12-21 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:16 PM 12/20/04 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: No doubt a real intelligence agent would be good at getting through this kind of screening, but that doesn't mean most of the people who want to blow up planes would be any good at it! You really continue to understimate the freedom fighters, don't

Re: [Antisocial] Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theorist

2004-12-21 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 01:23 PM 12/19/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: ..They have computers, they're tappin' phone lines, you know that ain't allowed.. Zappa...Heads...Crimson? A profile is emerging here! Either that or you recently broke into your dad's vinyl collection... Very funny. My walls o' vinyl are, BTW,

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 04:23 PM 12/19/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Funny how most Americans only wake up after it happens to them. As EC said, the only we understand is dead Merkins. Case in point? How 'bout that proud-n-patriotic lady in Farenheit 911? As far as I could tell, prior to her son's death she was all

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Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004

2004-12-21 Thread John Kelsey
The difference here is that Bad_Guy is visiting the country for the first time. Now, there are fewer questions to ask. But that's a common enough situation that the questioners are going to be ready for it. And I bet a lot of the point of their questioning is just to see if they detect signs

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Tyler Durden
JAT wrote... You keep asserting this, but at the same time fail to provide an example. Please show how flying can easily be a requirement, not an option. One legitimate example will suffice. Later. (Actually, I didn't 'keep asserting this', but that's a separate matter) So, your position is

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: Well, there's a TINY little hole in your logic here... Scale of distance is the only difference. Either you support the system or you don't. I don't: I either drive to jobs (charging for mileage) or I pass on them, rather than take part in the

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 11:56 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Well, there's a TINY little hole in your logic here... [J.A. Terranson wrote:] Scale of distance is the only difference. Either you support the system or you don't. I don't: I either drive to jobs (charging for mileage) or I pass on

Re: Flaw with lava lamp entropy source

2004-12-21 Thread John Kelsey
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 18, 2004 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Flaw with lava lamp entropy source .. These days the video entropy source is not a lava lamp, but a lens cap - in the dark, the ccds generate significant thermal noise, which

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, there's a TINY little hole in your logic here... Scale of distance is the only difference. Either you support the system or you don't. I don't: I either drive to jobs (charging for mileage) or I pass on them, rather than take part in the police state that is todays air system. You have

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: put it this way it starts to make some sense. In other words, avoiding travel whenever possible will (when added to sheeple starting to do the same because of all the terible screening stories) eventually start putting some squeeze on the airlines. I

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:57:08AM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: If you *need* to get to Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc., driving, riding Greyhound, or riding Amtrak are NOT OPTIONS. Emigration is always an option, though. Quite a few have done that already. -- Eugen* Leitl a

Re: RAH's postings.

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 10:23 AM -0500 12/21/04, Somebody wrote: What the hell does an article about gypsy mechanics have to do with cypherpunks? I plead anarchic markets, m'lord. Emerging phenomena, and all that, in spite all regulation to the contrary. Which was why I sent the traffic thing as well. No laws (or

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
[Note, I'm on the list, and I don't need two copies of every message in this thread] On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 06:34 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: Agreed, if you want And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what it boils down to.

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Justin
On 2004-12-21T10:38:10-0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: put it this way it starts to make some sense. In other words, avoiding travel whenever possible will (when added to sheeple starting to do the same because of all the terible screening stories)

Re: RAH's postings.

2004-12-21 Thread Tyler Durden
I actually found the mechanics' article quite interesting. I think it's what anarchy starts to look like in the real world...ie, there are still laws 'somewhere', but they end up functioning like a 'value add' or quality control. I've argued on numerous occasions that NYC already has some very

Re: RAH's postings.

2004-12-21 Thread Anonymous
Someone wrote: At 10:23 AM -0500 12/21/04, Somebody wrote: RAH, if you want to anonymize a quoted email, it helps if you remove the In-Reply-To: and References: headers. What the hell does an article about gypsy mechanics have to do with cypherpunks? I plead anarchic markets, m'lord.

Paging Black Unicorn, Part 2: Money Laundering in the Geodesic Economy

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
Here's the article in question... Cheers, RAH --- http://www.arraydev.com/commerce/JIBC/9703-12.htm JIBC Hettinga's Best of the Month Money Laundering in the Geodesic Economy From Robert Hettinga Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.shipwright.com Robert Hettinga is a financial

Paging Black Unicorn (was RE: Costs of Money Laundering Enforcement)

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
Contact him directly, please... Cheers, RAH --- begin forwarded text From: Astengo, F. (Fabrizio) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'R.A. Hettinga' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Costs of Money Laundering Enforcement Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:15:42 +0200 Hi Robert, Have the link here, but after