Quoting Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
One way to build a psuedo-pseudonymous mechanism to hang off of Tor
that would be easy for the Wikipedians to deal with
would be to have a server that lets you connect to it using Tor,
log in using some authentication protocol or other,
then have it
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Subject: Pseudonymity for tor: nym-0.1 (fwd)
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Per the recent discussion regarding tor and wikipedia, I've
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Sorry for the flood, but this is winding down already.
What I didn't like about this discussion is that all
concerned parties seem to have been shouting into
space past each other, just trying to make a noise
instead of understanding and solving the problem.
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One way to build a psuedo-pseudonymous mechanism to hang off of Tor
that would be easy for the Wikipedians to deal with
would be to have a server that lets you connect to it using Tor,
log in using some authentication protocol or other,
then have it generate different outgoing addresses based on
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Some points of
Now we will see how good the anonymizing
networks are, and how long it will take until
they will become a target.
I'm surprised it has taken them so long. I'd
expect this would have happened at least 5 years ago.
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No, this is important. If this isn't Cypherpunks material these days then
nothing is.
As for the Wikipedia folks, I can't imagine having a more intelligent batch
of people disagree. There's is a very practical matter: Reducing the
hassles, particularly when said hassles in general deteriorate
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A very munchkin-esque project. It
Sunder wrote:
I've been ignoring this list for a while, so sorry for the late
posting.
I remember sometime in late 99, I had one of the early blackberry
pagers, the small ones that ate a single AA battery which lasted about
a
week or so, and had email + a small web browser inside of it. It
That's trivial: charge Tor-originated users for editing. That 0.0001% (all
three of them) that actually contributes to Wikipedia will be resourceful
enough to create untraceable payment accounts.
...and ensure that all future Tor-originated Wikipedia entries are about
anonymous payments and
But now we're back to the question: how can Tor be improved to deal with
this very serious and important problem? What are the steps that might
be taken, however imperfect, to reduce the amount of abuse coming from
Tor nodes?
That's trivial: charge Tor-originated users for editing. That
Stupid assholes. Despite all the tech work in India going on, their military
apparently didn't realize that the world changed a long time ago (way before
Google). And if they can somehow block google, then I can merely purchase
the photos on the black market from a private satellite.
-TD
Oh...-that's- your point:
No, Wikipedia needs to realize that the IP address correlation they enjoy
outside of Tor is a happy accident, and that they should stop treating IP
addressess as user credentials. If they want credentials, they need to
implement them.
Well, is it reasonable to
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