Re: Minneapolis, Nov 15: Fwd: [free-sklyarov] Bruce Schneier talk

2001-11-07 Thread measl
Fuck Bruce Schneier. On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:44:29 -0800 From: Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cypherpunks List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Minneapolis, Nov 15: Fwd: [free-sklyarov] Bruce Schneier talk on

Re: CDR: Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: At 09:47 PM 11/3/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: On 3 Nov 2001, at 13:28, Tim May wrote: What else is expected in a police state? The soldiers say who can travel, and where. Fuck this nation. Fuck it to death and start over. Tim, you are

Re: CDR: RE: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: Ring a bell here? Green bad, Republican good, Christian good, Muslim bad?, or the other way round!! It would be very sad if America was to become this shallow! Too late. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really

Re: CDR: Re: Maine National Guard bars Green Party leader from flying

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: At 03:10 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: Back to Sandy's coments Re: rape victims. Just because you got a big mouth doesn't mean you should become a victim. Would you say greeting every police

Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: At the moment, it's National Guard, there is a long precedent for use of Nat.Guard troops for civil things. So long as they do not bring in regular active duty military, in violation of the posse comitatus act. And it is pure judicial fiat. Guardsmen on

Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: Whatever Jim. Have it your way, a century of precedent means nothing. You may want to acquire (and possibly even *read*), Government By Judiciary. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human

Re: CDR: Ashcroft prepares for martial law

2001-10-30 Thread measl
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unlike America's Most Wanted the new dire but vague warnings are unlikely to cause citizens to uncover a massive new plot, I doubt they would have uncovered the 911 even if predictions of impending trouble have been announced a few days prior.

Re: CDR: Re: Singing The War Prayer

2001-10-29 Thread measl
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Incognito Innominatus wrote: Mr. Melon, ^ I get a chuckle out of this every time I see it :-) snip Are there 40,000 'interned' at this time? No. 1000 according to what I've read, more according to people in the community. Is our technical intelligence

Re: CDR: RE: JOHN EDWARD

2001-10-28 Thread measl
On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: Nope, not in the least. I HATE people who take advantage of the suffering of others. Wait a sec here: aren't you a lawyer? S a n d y -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human

Now we know why those 1000 are being held in NYC

2001-10-28 Thread measl
- BEGIN CUT AND PASTE -- http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/10/28/inv.attacks.calls.reut/index.html NEW YORK(Reuters) -- Among almost 1,000 people being held in the United States in connection with the hijacked-airliner attacks on the World Trade Center

RE: JOHN EDWARD

2001-10-28 Thread measl
On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: J.A. Terranson wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: Nope, not in the least. I HATE people who take advantage of the suffering of others. Wait a sec here: aren't you a lawyer? Don't practice. Besides, the practice

Re: CDR: Re: Where The Torture Never Stops...

2001-10-26 Thread measl
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote: Besides, Prison is not punishment to the literate. Please tell me this is not meant as it reads. I keep trying, but seem unable to find anything but a straight reading.. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us

Re: Where The Torture Never Stops...

2001-10-26 Thread measl
This worldview of your makes a point of deying the reality of the situation under disussion. It's difficult to enjoy reading all the worlds scriptures when you need to spend most of your time insuring your pyhsical *survival*. You have absolutely no concept of our prisons, do you? On Fri, 26

Re: CDR: Re: A champion of liberty speaks about privacy, cashsmuggling

2001-10-26 Thread measl
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Bill Stewart wrote: For as long as I have been traveling internationally, I have been required to declare all cash amounts larger than $10,000. Does this mean that previously it was not a crime to not make such a declaration, and now it is ? I suspect that this little

Re: CDR: Re: Torture Never Stops..

2001-10-25 Thread measl
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I'm not sure I agree that WE are providing the rope to the ropers. It seems rather that the ropers are taking the rope while everyone else stands by without objection, blinded by tears, anger and fear. I find the difference here to be

Re: [EMED-L] Airborne anthrax protection... (fwd)

2001-10-25 Thread measl
interesting trivia for the biowar inclined :-) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:37:28 -0700 From: Tim Sturgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: EMED-L -- a list for emergency medicine practitioners. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMED-L]

Re: CDR: Senate approves USA Act, sends to Bush, Ashcroft vows newera

2001-10-25 Thread measl
This has got to be the single scariest thing I have *ever* read from any government official. After reading this, I doubt that the nuclear winter comments that have been bandied about are going to be very far off their mark... It especially terrifying to note that this speech specifically

Re: CDR: a question

2001-10-24 Thread measl
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, (na) mshoe wrote: I first want you to know I understand what you do but Great! Could you please explain it to *US* then? I [seriously] doubt that most of us know what it is we do here! I need to ask you to please remove the post from

Re: CDR: Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-24 Thread measl
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Jim Choate wrote: What does it mean to 'agree'? or, more to the point, what does is mean? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better

Re: CDR: [psychohistory] A Terrorist's Nursery (fwd)

2001-10-24 Thread measl
Excellent. Thank you for delivering the entire article, rather than a link (I usually get to your likns BTW, but they do sit _way_ down on the list). On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Jim Choate wrote: Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:37:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL

Re: CDR: Cypherpunks idiots list

2001-10-24 Thread measl
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote: [much whineyou suck/whine elided] Note: if you are an idiot, you may not like being informed of this fact. Glass houses... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] no doubt the source of the low paying system

Re: CDR: Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds

2001-10-24 Thread measl
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: Shit, so much for ordering mushroom spores by mail! Hopefully UPS and fedex won't follow suit. you should be aware that FedX now carries a large (majority?) portion of the US mails, under contract. This is the reason that FedX drop boxes were

Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leapsand bounds)

2001-10-24 Thread measl
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: The really weird thing about this whole anthrax scene is that all the spores seem to be of the Ames variety, which is a militarized anthrax Shouldn't this read non-militarized? The Ames strain is a standardized research strain, used

Re: CDR: Re: Farm Out! (was Re: Retribution not enough)

2001-10-22 Thread measl
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote: You must be the only remaining user of NS (for either the Mac or Windows). Everyone I know gave up on NS 5 and moved on to IE. It's not perfect, but it's not buggy like AOLscape is. IE 5.1 is pretty good on OS X, as is OmniWeb. Try Opera: Fast, free

Re: CDR: Re: FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent

2001-10-22 Thread measl
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Jon Beets wrote: Subject: CDR: Re: FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent This appears total BS to me... While I don't doubt some agents do at times conduct their own idea of interrogation I sincerely doubt that the FBI as a whole would be considering this...

Re: FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent

2001-10-22 Thread measl
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:13:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that in todays hyper-patriotic environment, this is would be not only an accepted practice, but even a _preferred_ one by many Amerikans :-( Yep. It's going to be a

Re: CDR: RE: Disney's SSSCA psy-ops: EZ Jackster

2001-10-22 Thread measl
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Xeni Jardin wrote: In the next episode, Osama bin Laden makes a cameo, on Jackster's side of course. Right. But in next week's episode, they rename it Anthraxster. No no no... That's the US Army's thing: The Army: looking for a few good spores.

Re: CDR: Re: FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent

2001-10-22 Thread measl
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote: If the U.S. abandons the standard that no person shall be compelled to be a witness against himself--something the truth serum drugging option would of course imply just as surely as torture would--the end times will be upon us. I submit that this has

Re: IP: Beyond Carnivore: FBI Eyes Packet Taps (fwd)

2001-10-21 Thread measl
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: All the more reason to use Linux routers and firewalls. Especially if Cisco pulls a Larry Ellison. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS That's fine and dandy for ds1's, and maybe even enough for the majority of fractional ds3 customers, but how are you

assasinating larry (the movie)

2001-10-21 Thread measl
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, mattd wrote: Matt: AP is not yet possible. Do your homework. There is a long road between theory and reality, and it is littered with the corpses of people who couldn't tell the difference. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson snip You have no idea how glad I am to here that.Jim

Re: CDR: RE: Retribution Time

2001-10-21 Thread measl
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: Hear, hear. This sort of crap is the inevitable outcome of an unmoderated list. And the inevitable outcome of a _moderated_ list is that free expression (loon-like or not) is sacrificed. No thanks. Censorship. er, moderation is bad,

Re: CDR: Ridge is lying, spores are pro

2001-10-21 Thread measl
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Khoder bin Hakkin wrote: In Washington, Ridge told reporters the anthrax analyzed in the United States had not been ``weaponized,'' meaning it had not been manipulated to facilitate inhalation by potential victims. Actually, weaponization of germs is a two faceted

X-mail

2001-10-20 Thread measl
http://www.xfiles.com/main_flash.html (popup for fan mail) Regarding fan letters and other mail to The X-Files and Ten Thirteen Productions: Due to the recent security concerns, we will not be opening any paper mail received at our production office from unknown

Re: CDR: Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread measl
On 20 Oct 2001, Dr. Evil wrote: Do different states use different formats for the data on the magstrip? I believe they are all using ABA encoding. Of course, I could also be wrong :-) Do all states even have magstrips? Again, I may be wrong, but IIRC, there is now n active effort to

Assasinating larry

2001-10-19 Thread measl
Did you take your meds today? On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, mattd wrote: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:42:46 +1000 From: mattd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Assasinating larry www.indymedia.org today proffr1 is clearly the victorian police...

Re: Your papers please

2001-10-19 Thread measl
On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote: Personally, I doubt your story. Someone who does what you say was done to you has clearly earned killing. While I agree with your assessment that he has earned killing, I do not see how my failure to kill him earns doubt - one does not necessarily follow

Re: CDR: Re: Who represents the detained? Nobody...

2001-10-19 Thread measl
On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Optimizzin Al-gorithm wrote: Everyone seems to have forgotten about NYPD's fondness for plungers up the butt, or perforating immigrants offering their wallet. Maybe a building falling on them was Infinite Justice. No, it was very limited justice: the towers missed the

FBI anthrax posters.

2001-10-18 Thread measl
Anyone else find their work environment covered with the new FBI posters (8 1/2 x 11 color) on how to recognize mail which may be from terrorists, and/or contain anthrax? My wife has not yet seen one at her work (she works retail), so I'm wondering if these have only been distributed to certain

Re: CDR: Your papers please

2001-10-18 Thread measl
On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Jamie Lawrence wrote: Does anyone know the legal issues surrounding the act of taking a pocket tape recorder and recording at least my side of this sort of transaction? There's actually two questions implied here: (1) What are the _legal_ implications? The

CDC Anthrax broadcast (fwd)

2001-10-17 Thread measl
For anyone interested... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:10:29 -0600 From: Jeffrey Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: EMED-L -- a list for emergency medicine practitioners. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Executive Order - Critical Infrastructure Protection in the InformationAge (fwd)

2001-10-17 Thread measl
This is a fun one... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:43:46 -0700 From: Barry Raveendran Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Executive Order - Critical Infrastructure Protection in the Information Age

Amusing note from RIAA

2001-10-03 Thread measl
from http://www.fuckedcompany.com/extras/riaa_email.cfm - Original Message - From: Hilary Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/25/01 Subject: Peer to Peer Services Dear all: It is time to get coordinated and aggressive with the new round of peer to peer services. The amount of music being

Amusing note from RIAA

2001-10-03 Thread measl
[Reformatted for legibility. Please take the few moments required to present material in a clear and readable manner. KMSelf] from http://www.fuckedcompany.com/extras/riaa_email.cfm - Original Message - From: Hilary Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/25/01 Subject: Peer to Peer Services

Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)

2001-09-30 Thread measl
On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, James B. DiGriz wrote: What I find interesting is how we can have a war without a Congressional declaration, which out of practical if not legal necessity requires something at least approximating a foreign power as the enemy. It would Oh, like the War on Drugs?

America needs an enema...

2001-09-30 Thread measl
On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Steve Schear wrote: Its angering how much lip service though little progress has been made since 1973 on freeing America from her chemical dependence on petroleum in general and mid-east oil specifically. If the U.S. had no direct economic interests in the mid-east

[FREE] stratfor (fwd)

2001-09-29 Thread measl
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:58:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Nathanael Dermyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FREE] stratfor http://www.stratfor.com This is a website about strategic forcasting. These people really know their shit. Read these in order ...

Re: FC: Frank Sudia's anti-crypto stand: Razor blade genie is outof bottle

2001-09-24 Thread measl
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: From: Frank Sudia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Carl Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Razor Blade Genie is Out of the Bottle huge snip The legislative power of the people (not me, the crypto guys are the

From Washington Times

2001-09-23 Thread measl
WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 (UPI) - U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sunday the Bush administration would soon offer proof of Osama bin Laden's alleged involvement in the recent terror attacks on New York and Washington. In the near future,

The Star (Canada): It's the U.S. foreign policy, stupid ..

2001-09-19 Thread measl
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:15:00 -0500 (CDT) From: MSANEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Star (Canada): It's the U.S. foreign policy, stupid .. Suicide Bombers were NOT pious avengers

Pakistan's Price: $30bbn

2001-09-16 Thread measl
It appears Pakistan has closed the deal: we retire thirty billion in their debt, and they agree to act as our proxy. Damn they're cheap! Personally, I would have held out for a *lot* more... http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/09/16/afghan.prepare/index.html -- Yours, J.A.

Re: IP: RE: Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps,Carn ivoreus e (fwd)

2001-09-15 Thread measl
Declan, I ignored the first two points because I don't think they're that important. These warrantless searches are emergency orders that have to be followed by a court order in 48 hours. Sometimes courts are closed and the cops need data right away. Tuesday evening would be a

Re: [EMED-L] terrorism versus manifest destiny (fwd)

2001-09-12 Thread measl
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the

Re: Naughty Journal Author Denied Plea Change

2001-09-09 Thread measl
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: You, my friend, Let's get something *perfectly* straight: I am NOT your friend. -Declan -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration

Re: CDR: Re: Naughty Journal Author Denied Plea Change

2001-09-08 Thread measl
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: Mere possession (not creation) of visual depictions of child pornography has been a federal felony for at least a decade. Someone who's a collector who did not publish the material would be a felon. We are not talking about visual depictions

Re: Official Anonymizing

2001-09-04 Thread measl
Hear Hear!! Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Adam Shostack wrote: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:33:21 -0400 From: Adam Shostack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Re: Official

Re: kuro5hin.org || How Home-Schooling Harms the Nation

2001-08-31 Thread measl
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : zap my old stuff : Another facet is that the well-to-do are attempting to remove their funds from the systems so they can use those funds to educate their children as they choose. A voucher system would surely

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-31 Thread measl
and action. Complete and utter bullshit. Measl sometimes posts worthy stuff, Today must be my day! I get a tahnk you for the cite from Tim, and a semi-nod from Declan. Shit, a guy could have a heart attack this way giggle! so instead of flaming him, I'll just say that much of First

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread measl
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: much true stuff snipped But even given the tattered First Amendment, there is still a difference between speech and action. Complete and utter bullshit. -Declan -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to

Re: Jim Bell sentenced to 10 years in prison

2001-08-25 Thread measl
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Eugene Leitl wrote: Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:41:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Eugene Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Re: Jim Bell sentenced to 10 years in prison On Sat, 25 Aug

Re: CDR: Battle Tested Police Watch

2001-08-16 Thread measl
Oh, the irony!!! On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, it was written: Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:46:04 -1000 (GMT) From: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Battle Tested Police Watch 10% Discount and Free Shipping for all Police Employees! Chase-Durer's SPECIAL

Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting (fwd)

2001-08-13 Thread measl
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:09:40 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mitch Halmu [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Randy Bush wrote: you could be right. i guess it's

Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting

2001-08-13 Thread measl
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Jared Mauch wrote: No, I'm not talking about the spammers who were caught in maps, I'm referring to the INNOCENTS who were caught in MAPS. If the LEO community acted like MAPS does, there would have been armed revolution in the streets *years ago*. MAPS never

Re: Russian Programmer Not Eager to be Celebrity

2001-08-13 Thread measl
On 13 Aug 2001, John R. Levine wrote: I can't say I'm surprised. When he's not writing copy protection and password cracking code, he's also one of the world's leading authors of spamware, both programs to scrape e-mail addresses from web pages (http://www.mailutilities.com/aee/) and to

Re: Cypherpunks, pay per use remailers, and the good ol' days

2001-08-09 Thread measl
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: Naturally you'd have to trust that at least one remailer was honest -- but you already do that, right? Just a curiosity note (yes, I *should* RTFM, but it's about 6am, and I'm late for work, not to mention lazy today :-) While one remailer is

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread measl
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Petro wrote: (I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) For very limited values of used, yes. Not often, and not by many, but I'd bet it will build under OS X. More than you may think. I personally use it, and I know at

Re: Remailer Phases

2001-08-08 Thread measl
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Anonymous wrote: 1. Average latency less than 5 min Bad: traffic analysis. Latency (via delay) should be random between two set points. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give

Re: Public Records in USA v. Sklyarov

2001-08-07 Thread measl
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, John Young wrote: Cryptome has obtained 60 pages of public records filed in USA v. Dmitry Sklyarov: five pages of Court documents and 55 pages of submissions in support of Dmitry's character and achievements. They are offered in compressed TIFF format: Most of these

Re: Stranger than anything Rand ever imagined

2001-08-05 Thread measl
The mind boggles at what lawyers have done to these united states. Time to fire up the ovens and send them to the showers.) --Tim May Praise the lord, and pass the Zyklon-B! -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human

Sandfort is still an idiot (Was: Re: CDR: JIM DONALD IS A CANARYPUNK, was: Spoliation cites)

2001-08-04 Thread measl
On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: dishonesty and cowardice (next, I suppose, he'll be sending his son--rolls of quarters clenched tightly in his little fists--to do his dirty work), I That's me you're referring to you moron. If you are going to resort to ad hominem, at least get your

RE: WHERE IS DILDO? (was: The Martian Private-Socialist-Anarchist)

2001-07-27 Thread measl
What is this pseudo-macho crap? You have some kind of serious personality problem Sandfort. On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: As I think I've demonstrated, filters don't work. Nevertheless, I'm getting tired of beating the crap out of Jimbo. There's no challenge any more; it's

Re: Ohio man convicted for obscene stories in his privatejournal

2001-07-26 Thread measl
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Alan wrote: The constitution may have its problems, but it is better than what we have now. - Unknown That's *Classic*! -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious

Re: CDR: Re: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-26 Thread measl
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Petro wrote: Wrong headed or not, LEOs are manufactured out of human beings, and because of this, the spend a considerable amount of time in the Maggot Academy (tm) being taught the fine points of this very issue. In fact, No, they don't. Spoke with an officer

RE: Vengeance Against Adobe

2001-07-25 Thread measl
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Reese wrote: At 07:34 PM 7/23/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (aka J.A. Terranson wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do you send to two lists? Why do you care? Fuck off Reese. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want

Re: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-25 Thread measl
At the risk of going Choatien and stepping far beyond any degrees I may have, the position that each and every LEO in this country *should* (as opposed to does) decide for himself whether a law fits his understanding of the constitution before enforcing it is not only unworkable,

Re: CDR: Re: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-25 Thread measl
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Bill Stewart wrote: I'm not sure which of the s are Petro, Schliesser, Measl, or others, These are not me (Measl), nor Schilesser, so that only leaves Petro :-) Thank you Bill, for a much clearer statement of what I was *trying* to impart. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson

Re: CDR: RE: Vengeance Against Adobe

2001-07-24 Thread measl
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: I couldn't agree with you more, nevertheless my point still stands that disincentives do exist and the Federal Baby Incinerators don't need yet another incrementally damaging error on their rap sheet. Do you *honestly* think they give a shit? Are

Re: CDR: Vengeance Against Adobe

2001-07-24 Thread measl
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Tim May wrote: Adobe will be suffering for a long time to come. While it is a consummation devoutly to be wished, I predict that the backlash will be gone in a mere matter of weeks, if not days. Let's face it: the people most likely to be Adobe *customers* are anything

Re: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-24 Thread measl
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Petro burbled upon us thusly: Another point you bring up is that a LEO should not enforce laws that clearly violate the constitution. A LEO cannot do that *and still be a LEO*. He can refuse by resigning, but if he simply takes the position that he will

Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread measl
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Petro wrote: Willing to make me the same offer? Sure. But you'll have to learn how to read first. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards

Re: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-22 Thread measl
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Petro wrote: At 12:32 PM -0500 7/21/01, Benson Schliesser wrote: We still live in a country that has laws, and we *should* expect the LEAs to enforce all laws that are on the books. If you have a problem with the laws, it's not the LEAs fault, it's the legislature

Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-21 Thread measl
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, David Honig wrote: All this argues for anonymously coded projects, etc. But that means you can't get credit for novel research. This is one of the ways that the DCMA is counter to historically unimpeded research innovation ---Its not rational for profs sans tenure

RE: Killing the G8 Anarchists,

2001-07-21 Thread measl
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Faustine wrote: all power flows from the barrel of a gun? Maybe so. But most people who sign contracts are more motivated by the threat of lawsuits, jail and fines than the direct threat of violence. What you are missing here is that the threat of jail and fines are

Re: CDR: George W. Bush on biochemwomdterror

2001-07-18 Thread measl
... missiles in the hands of those for whom terror and blackmail are a very way of life. Oh, you mean the United States. Yeah. I agree fully. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious

remove my email from mailing list

2001-07-17 Thread measl
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: remove my email from mailing list No. You made the mistake of suscriving, now we 0wn you, aol boy... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious

Re: freq meter vs. spectrum analyzer for sweeping

2001-07-11 Thread measl
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, A. Melon wrote: Umm, all the stuff being sold for counter surveillance are frequency counters of one sort or another. That's because Joe Sixpack can't even *hope* to afford a decent spectrum analyzer. My *nine year old* HP cost me just under $8,000.00 - _used_. If

Re: Condit's false testimony to cops

2001-07-09 Thread measl
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: Congresscritters and other political vermin are most assuredly special objects. Is there *anyone* who has not realized this yet? Right. It was former AG Thornburgh who noted on a talk show yesterday that the cops still hadn't searched the

Condit's false testimony to cops

2001-07-09 Thread measl
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Dynamite Bob wrote: Its illegal to lie to cops (though not to be mute to them). Will Condit get busted for lying about bonking his intern or are congresscritters special objects? Congresscritters and other political vermin are most assuredly special objects. Is

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