If they do it under threat, then it is not voluntary.
They may have come here voluntarily, but that was probably due to the
false advertising that America is a Land of Opportunity(tm) and other
such rot that our country has used to sucker people to come here.
Oh please. So the streets aren't
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 22:20, bgt wrote:
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 10:48, cubic-dog wrote:
in force, because, we finally get slave, indentured servants who
will either take the 90 cents and hour or be deported.
This kind of rhetoric is extremely irritating. If they can
be deported, they are
If they do it under threat, then it is not voluntary.
They may have come here voluntarily, but that was probably due to the
false advertising that America is a Land of Opportunity(tm) and other
such rot that our country has used to sucker people to come here.
Oh please. So the streets aren't
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 10:48, cubic-dog wrote:
in force, because, we finally get slave, indentured servants who
will either take the 90 cents and hour or be deported.
This kind of rhetoric is extremely irritating. If they can
be deported, they are neither slaves or indentured servants.
If
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, bgt wrote:
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 00:20, bgt wrote:
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 10:48, cubic-dog wrote:
in force, because, we finally get slave, indentured servants who
will either take the 90 cents and hour or be deported.
This kind of rhetoric is extremely
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 14:15, cubic-dog wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, bgt wrote:
... Anyway... be productive or be deported does not constitute
I don't think I said that, you put it in quotes, implying I did.
It's an okay paraphrase though, so we'll take it like that.
Yes, it was intended as
On Jan 14, 2004, at 3:51 PM, bgt wrote:
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 14:15, cubic-dog wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, bgt wrote:
... Anyway... be productive or be deported does not constitute
I don't think I said that, you put it in quotes, implying I did.
It's an okay paraphrase though, so we'll take it
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, bgt wrote:
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 00:20, bgt wrote:
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 10:48, cubic-dog wrote:
in force, because, we finally get slave, indentured servants who
will either take the 90 cents and hour or be deported.
This kind of rhetoric is extremely
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tim May wrote:
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:51 AM, Tyler Durden wrote:
I'll tell you a story.
Back in the late 1980s I taught at a notorious HS in Bedford
snip
snip
Second, we are fast-moving toward a society and economy where only
those who _wanted_ to study math and
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:20 PM, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Tim May wrote...
In conclusion, your Bedford-Stuy student who doesn't see the point to
studying math will never be a math researcher, or a physicist, or a
chemist, or anything else of that sort. So no point in trying to
convince
him to study his
At 12:14 AM 1/1/04 -0800, Eric Cordian wrote:
Of
course, they still need one to determine who gets the shit-hauling
jobs,
and the usual method of doing this is to hide the class system in the
education system. Now you don't get the shit-hauling job because you
are
an untouchable. You get it
On Jan 2, 2004, at 12:03 AM, Tim May wrote:
So Kennedy's liberals scratched their heads and came up with a new
plan. Relief would be converted to a series of state and national
programs, no longer handled locally. And the bad connotations of
relief would be changed by the new and positive name
At 11:51 AM 1/1/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
Stay In School!
In other words, schools keep the crime rates down, as is a well-known
statistic. They are basically storage facilities. For real schools we
white
folks with $$$ can move out to the suburbs or send our kids to private
school.
Right.
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tim May wrote:
A few moments of thought will show the connection between replicators
and general assemblers. A general assembler can make another general
assembler, hence all general assemblers are replicators. And in fact
this is necessary to make mechanosynthesis
On Jan 1, 2004, at 7:44 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tim May wrote:
A few moments of thought will show the connection between replicators
and general assemblers. A general assembler can make another general
assembler, hence all general assemblers are replicators. And in fact
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Eric Cordian wrote:
In the real world, a society can not consist 100% of chip designers. It
also requires cooks, toilet and floor scrubbers, and people who lug
concrete in wheelbarrows up stairs.
Sure, those are still needed. Though I wouldn't be so sure that toilet and
Tim May wrote...
Because the Jews and negroes have demanded that all students be taught
stuff they obviously will never use. Most inner city mutants should be
taught practical skills, not abstract stuff their previous education has
been bereft of.
Well, I don't know who's responsible, but
On Jan 1, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Tyler Durden wrote:
Tim May wrote...
First, please stop including the full text of the message you are
replying to. Learn to use an editor, whether you ultimately top-post
or bottom-post to edited fragments.
I actually do this for a reason. If I'm not doing a
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
a whole lot of really good points elided
As you can probably tell, I've never read many secondary or tertiary
sources.
I have a very hard time believeing that anyone would consider VN a
secondary or tertiary source.
(ie, as a physicist I've always
Well I be darned if Mr May hasn't inspired a major burst of eloquence,
between this response and Mr Young's.
As for this comment:
Schools don't educate, but merely serve as a filter for employers to
locate those individuals who aren't going to make trouble at the factory.
At best. In the inner
At 11:51 AM 1/1/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
Stay In School!
In other words, schools keep the crime rates down, as is a well-known
statistic. They are basically storage facilities. For real schools we
white
folks with $$$ can move out to the suburbs or send our kids to private
school.
Right.
At 12:14 AM 1/1/04 -0800, Eric Cordian wrote:
Of
course, they still need one to determine who gets the shit-hauling
jobs,
and the usual method of doing this is to hide the class system in the
education system. Now you don't get the shit-hauling job because you
are
an untouchable. You get it
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:20 PM, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Tim May wrote...
In conclusion, your Bedford-Stuy student who doesn't see the point to
studying math will never be a math researcher, or a physicist, or a
chemist, or anything else of that sort. So no point in trying to
convince
him to study his
On Jan 2, 2004, at 12:03 AM, Tim May wrote:
So Kennedy's liberals scratched their heads and came up with a new
plan. Relief would be converted to a series of state and national
programs, no longer handled locally. And the bad connotations of
relief would be changed by the new and positive name
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Eric Cordian wrote:
In the real world, a society can not consist 100% of chip designers. It
also requires cooks, toilet and floor scrubbers, and people who lug
concrete in wheelbarrows up stairs.
Sure, those are still needed. Though I wouldn't be so sure that toilet and
Well I be darned if Mr May hasn't inspired a major burst of eloquence,
between this response and Mr Young's.
As for this comment:
Schools don't educate, but merely serve as a filter for employers to
locate those individuals who aren't going to make trouble at the factory.
At best. In the inner
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:51 AM, Tyler Durden wrote:
I'll tell you a story.
Back in the late 1980s I taught at a notorious HS in Bedford
Stuyvesant. 90% of my students were black. I regarded few of them as
stupid, but almost none of them saw the point of studying math...they
just didn't see how it
Tim May wrote...
First, please stop including the full text of the message you are replying
to. Learn to use an editor, whether you ultimately top-post or bottom-post
to edited fragments.
I actually do this for a reason. If I'm not doing a line-by-line response
(or sometimes even if I am), I
On Jan 1, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Tyler Durden wrote:
Tim May wrote...
First, please stop including the full text of the message you are
replying to. Learn to use an editor, whether you ultimately top-post
or bottom-post to edited fragments.
I actually do this for a reason. If I'm not doing a
Tim May wrote...
Because the Jews and negroes have demanded that all students be taught
stuff they obviously will never use. Most inner city mutants should be
taught practical skills, not abstract stuff their previous education has
been bereft of.
Well, I don't know who's responsible, but
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
a whole lot of really good points elided
As you can probably tell, I've never read many secondary or tertiary
sources.
I have a very hard time believeing that anyone would consider VN a
secondary or tertiary source.
(ie, as a physicist I've always
Tim May wrote...
In conclusion, your Bedford-Stuy student who doesn't see the point to
studying math will never be a math researcher, or a physicist, or a
chemist, or anything else of that sort. So no point in trying to convince
him to study his math.
Why the BedSty student Tim?
This is
J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why the BedSty student Tim?
Uhh, read more carefully. He was responding to a specific point from
Tyler Durden.
You have some incredible moments of lucidity and insight, and occasionally,
we are the lucky recipients of these fleeting events - but then,
I'll comment on the sociology after commenting on the physics:
(actually, looking over your sociology, I see it's just more of the
liberal whine and sleaze, so I won't bother commenting on it again)
On Jan 1, 2004, at 6:34 PM, Tyler Durden wrote:
Tim May wrote...
Then your education in
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tim May wrote:
A few moments of thought will show the connection between replicators
and general assemblers. A general assembler can make another general
assembler, hence all general assemblers are replicators. And in fact
this is necessary to make mechanosynthesis
On Jan 1, 2004, at 7:44 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tim May wrote:
A few moments of thought will show the connection between replicators
and general assemblers. A general assembler can make another general
assembler, hence all general assemblers are replicators. And in fact
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