RE: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-16 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:07 AM 1/14/05 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: It would take some chutzpa, but tacking onto a cops car would send a message Too easy. 5 points for adding to cop's personal car 10 points for adding to cop's spouse's personal car 20 points for adding to cop's mistress' personal car Not sure

RE: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-16 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:07 AM 1/14/05 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: It would take some chutzpa, but tacking onto a cops car would send a message Too easy. 5 points for adding to cop's personal car 10 points for adding to cop's spouse's personal car 20 points for adding to cop's mistress' personal car Not sure

Re: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-14 Thread Bill Stewart
At 12:30 PM 1/12/2005, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: Just out of curiosity, if the man doesn't need a warrent to place a surveilance device, shouldn't it be within your rights to tamper with, disable or remove such a device if you discover one? Do you mean that if you discover an unsolicited gift of

RE: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-14 Thread Trei, Peter
Bill Stewart wrote: At 12:30 PM 1/12/2005, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: Just out of curiosity, if the man doesn't need a warrent to place a surveilance device, shouldn't it be within your rights to tamper with, disable or remove such a device if you discover one? Do you mean that if you

Re: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-14 Thread Bill Stewart
At 12:30 PM 1/12/2005, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: Just out of curiosity, if the man doesn't need a warrent to place a surveilance device, shouldn't it be within your rights to tamper with, disable or remove such a device if you discover one? Do you mean that if you discover an unsolicited gift of

RE: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-14 Thread Trei, Peter
Bill Stewart wrote: At 12:30 PM 1/12/2005, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: Just out of curiosity, if the man doesn't need a warrent to place a surveilance device, shouldn't it be within your rights to tamper with, disable or remove such a device if you discover one? Do you mean that if you

expectation of privacy

2005-01-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 09:01 PM 1/12/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: It's time to blow the lid off this no expectation of privacy in public places argument that judges and law enforcement now spout out like demented parrots in so many situations. A court refused to hear the case of a man accused of owning unlicensed

[IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:46:47 -0500 To: Ip ip@v2.listbox.com Subject: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Reply-To: [EMAIL

Re: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-12 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
Re: the embedded item: http://timesunion.com/AspStories/storyprint.asp?StoryID=322152 Ruling gives cops leeway with GPS Decision allows use of vehicle tracking device without a warrant By BRENDAN LYONS, Staff writer First published: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 In a decision that could dramatically

expectation of privacy

2005-01-12 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 09:01 PM 1/12/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: It's time to blow the lid off this no expectation of privacy in public places argument that judges and law enforcement now spout out like demented parrots in so many situations. A court refused to hear the case of a man accused of owning unlicensed

Re: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-12 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
Re: the embedded item: http://timesunion.com/AspStories/storyprint.asp?StoryID=322152 Ruling gives cops leeway with GPS Decision allows use of vehicle tracking device without a warrant By BRENDAN LYONS, Staff writer First published: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 In a decision that could dramatically

Re: Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-24 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 07:16:03AM +0200, Anonymous ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: For the lawyers and lawyer larvae out there... In an article in the San Francisco Bay Guardian this week, there is an article about MUNI's policy of making audio recordings of passengers. quote Nathan Ballard of

RE: Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-24 Thread Trei, Peter
Anonymous[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] For the lawyers and lawyer larvae out there... In an article in the San Francisco Bay Guardian this week, there is an article about MUNI's policy of making audio recordings of passengers. quote Nathan Ballard of the City Attorney's Office told the

Re: RE: Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-24 Thread georgemw
On 24 Sep 2001, at 17:49, Robert wrote: Cal. Penal Code ' 631, 632 (Deering 1999): It is a crime in California to intercept or eavesdrop upon any confidential communication, including a telephone call or wire communication, without the consent of all parties. It is not a

RE: Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-24 Thread Aimee Farr
) the person challenging must exhibit an expectation of privacy [subjective] and (2) that person must also be justified in that expectation [objective]. If both prongs are not met, the conversation is not protected under the constitution against warrantless surveillance. Senate Report 1097: neither

Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-23 Thread Anonymous
For the lawyers and lawyer larvae out there... In an article in the San Francisco Bay Guardian this week, there is an article about MUNI's policy of making audio recordings of passengers. quote Nathan Ballard of the City Attorney's Office told the Bay Guardian that they were well aware of the