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CITIGROUP-CIA DENY STRONGLY LINKS/SWISS TIES.SECRET AC...

2002-11-16 Thread Matthew X
Does the Rot on Wall Street Reach Right to the Top? By GRETCHEN MORGENSON s the latest in a long line of Wall Street morality plays, the one involving Sanford I. Weill, the chairman of Citigroup, and Jack B. Grubman, his firm's former star telecommunications analyst, is unfolding in

Does Christmas smell like almonds to you?

2002-11-16 Thread Matthew X
A little more than a year ago, a man named George Walker Tush,excited a group of college students with some questions. Have you stood on a high and windy hill and heard the acorns drop and roll? Have you walked in the valley beside the brook? Have you walked alone and remembered? Does

The sub of all fears.

2002-11-16 Thread Matthew X
Two charged with nuke sub break-in 17nov02 POLICE have charged two anti-nuclear activists with criminal damage after they allegedly broke into a naval base and boarded a nuclear submarine, the British defence ministry and Navy have said. Petter Joelson from Sweden and Elisa Silvennoinen from

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Re: Fun with Rosslyn Chapel, or, What *was* the Templar's Cipher, anyway?

2002-11-16 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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The Radio Code that changed Hirstory.(long)

2002-11-16 Thread Matthew X
...Ozaki proved to be extremely helpful in Sorge's fact-finding mission in China. A dedicated leftist, the Japanese journalist provided Sorge with scores of important contacts in the Chinese Communist underground. Information Sorge received from these contacts was coded and then given to Max

First commercial quantum key distro.(60k limit.1000 bits)

2002-11-16 Thread Matthew X
http://www.idquantique.com/qkd.html Key distribution is a central problem in cryptography. Currently, public key cryptography is commonly used to solve it. However, these algorithms are vulnerable to increasing computer power. In addition, their security has never been formally proven. Quantum

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Hamburg with the lot.

2002-11-16 Thread Matthew X
Riots in Hamburg, Germany by alien8 4:04pm Sat Nov 16 '02 (Modified on 9:18pm Sat Nov 16 '02) Street battles are currently taking place in downtown Hamburg, Germany, following a large demonstration against the right-wing city council. A 4000-strong demonstration with participants from a wide

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Appeal for night vision funds in Nepal.

2002-11-16 Thread Matthew X
I am contemplating giving up APster agitation,Revolution and rebellion should be carnival of the oppressed, not the bingo hall for the mindlessly dull.Not they I will ever join an authoritarian bunch of Guerilla's either but... Despite my attacks on the lunacy of marxist leninism,like Al

OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. Who's next?

2002-11-16 Thread GaryJeffers
My Fellow Cypherpunks, Sunder says: In the end, that will produce far more terrorists than we have seen todate, more of our freedoms will be taken away unil an equilibrium ofrights will exist between the USA and dictatorships like Iraq.Luckily there's only two more years before the next

Re: Yet another attempt to defraud egold!

2002-11-16 Thread jdean
I got one of the scam emails. I haven't been a member of the Cypherpunks mailing list for years. But, I have posted to the list. I suspect the scammer harvested the addresses from http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/.

Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-16 Thread Dave Emery
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 12:11:35PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 10:09:37AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Holy Shit! Does that mean that some 18-year-old script kiddie could get LIFE? Yes, that's what the law says. Has to be a malicious attack, etc. I linked to

Re: [fc] list of papers accepted to FC'03

2002-11-16 Thread Ben Laurie
Tim May wrote: On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 07:55 AM, IanG wrote: -- I see pretty much a standard list of crypto papers here, albeit crypto with a waving of finance salt. What ever happened to Financial Cryptography? The organisers did say they were going to

Re: [Htech] Lying With Pixels (fwd)

2002-11-16 Thread Steve Schear
At 04:37 PM 11/16/2002 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 09:28:46 -0600 (CST) From: Premise Checker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Htech] Lying With Pixels Jul/Aug 00: Lying With Pixels http://www2.bc.edu/~okeefew/349/rfppixels.htm

Does the app exist...

2002-11-16 Thread Tyler Durden
I'm looking for an application that sits on a webserver and receives encrypted images and audio, de-encrypts them, and auto-posts the images. This application will have a public key which on-the-ground videographers (or uploaders) can use. But it's private key no human being knows. The

Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-16 Thread Dave Emery
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 08:01:08PM -0800, Tim May wrote: And software-defined radios, which are now coming from at least two sources, will make this even easier. Indeed, trespassing into the Big Brother-owned frequencies will be even easier. We may even see SDRs outlawed from the outset

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