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Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-25 Thread John Kelsey
From: cyphrpunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 24, 2005 5:58 PM To: John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems ... Digital wallets will require real security in user PCs. Still I don't see why we don't already have

On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-25 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 3:57 PM -0400 10/24/05, John Kelsey wrote: More to the point, an irreversible payment system raises big practical problems in a world full of very hard-to-secure PCs running the relevant software. One exploitable software bug, properly used, can steal an

On special objects, and Judy Miller's treason

2005-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Its unfortunate that some posters had to be reminded that anyone calling for government-licensed reporters (and religions, as one author included) deserves to have their carbon recycled, because of the treason to the BoR. Tim May used to call government licensed citizens special objects. Search

Private records scattered in the wind (FLA)

2005-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
We encourage the publication of the (paper) school records which the FLA hurricane reportedly distributed to locals, as part of an effort to show the sheeple how *well* the state guards their secrets. Particularly interested in offspring of state officials, not that their kids are likely go to

big bro in the car

2005-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Nuclear Detection: Fixed detectors, portals, and NEST teams won’t work for shielded HEU on a national scale; a distributed network of in-vehicle detectors is also necessary to deter nuclear terrorism http://iis-db.stanford.edu/evnts/4249/disarm.pdf Maybe the FCC will require rad detectors in

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-l ike Payment Systems

2005-10-25 Thread leichter_jerrold
| U.S. law generally requires that stolen goods be returned to the | original owner without compensation to the current holder, even if | they had been purchased legitimately (from the thief or his agent) by | an innocent third party. This is incorrect. The law draws a distinction between

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Wiretapping innocent people on the Internet]

2005-10-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
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RE: On special objects, and Judy Miller's treason

2005-10-25 Thread Tyler Durden
Its unfortunate that some posters had to be reminded that anyone calling for government-licensed reporters (and religions, as one author included) deserves to have their carbon recycled, because of the treason to the BoR. Tim May used to call government licensed citizens special objects. Search

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crypto on sonet is free, Tyler

2005-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:15 PM 6/8/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Well, it's interesting to consider how/if that might be possible. SONET scrambles the payload prior to transmission..adding an additional crypto layer prior to transmission would mean changing the line rate, so probably a no-no. Tyler, one can

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Re: [PracticalSecurity] Anonymity - great technology but hardly used

2005-10-25 Thread Travis H.
Part of the problem is using a packet-switched network; if we had circuit-based, then thwarting traffic analysis is easy; you just fill the link with random garbage when not transmitting packets. I considered doing this with SLIP back before broadband (back when my friend was my ISP). There are

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-25 Thread Travis H.
If you have to be that confident in your computer security to use the payment system, it's not going to have many clients. Maybe the trusted computing platform (palladium) may have something to offer after all, namely enabling naive users to use services that require confidence in their own

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-25 Thread Daniel A. Nagy
One intresting security measure protecting valuable digital assets (WM protects private keys this way) is inflating them before encryption. While it does not protect agains trojan applications, it does a surprisingly good job at reducing attacks following the key logging + file theft pattern.

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-25 Thread cyphrpunk
On 10/24/05, Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think E-gold ever held out its system as non-reversible with proper court order. All reverses I am aware happened either due to some technical problem with their system or an order from a court of competence in the matter at hand.

Re: [PracticalSecurity] Anonymity - great technology but hardly used

2005-10-25 Thread cyphrpunk
http://www.hbarel.com/Blog/entry0006.html I believe that for anonymity and pseudonymity technologies to survive they have to be applied to applications that require them by design, rather than to mass-market applications that can also do (cheaper) without. If anonymity mechanisms are

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-25 Thread John Kelsey
From: cyphrpunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 24, 2005 5:58 PM To: John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems .. Digital wallets will require real security in user PCs. Still I don't see why we don't already have this

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-25 Thread Daniel A. Nagy
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 02:58:32PM -0700, cyphrpunk wrote: Digital wallets will require real security in user PCs. Still I don't see why we don't already have this problem with online banking and similar financial services. Couldn't a virus today steal people's passwords and command their

On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-25 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 3:57 PM -0400 10/24/05, John Kelsey wrote: More to the point, an irreversible payment system raises big practical problems in a world full of very hard-to-secure PCs running the relevant software. One exploitable software bug, properly used, can steal an

Private records scattered in the wind (FLA)

2005-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
We encourage the publication of the (paper) school records which the FLA hurricane reportedly distributed to locals, as part of an effort to show the sheeple how *well* the state guards their secrets. Particularly interested in offspring of state officials, not that their kids are likely go to

big bro in the car

2005-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Nuclear Detection: Fixed detectors, portals, and NEST teams won’t work for shielded HEU on a national scale; a distributed network of in-vehicle detectors is also necessary to deter nuclear terrorism http://iis-db.stanford.edu/evnts/4249/disarm.pdf Maybe the FCC will require rad detectors in

On special objects, and Judy Miller's treason

2005-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Its unfortunate that some posters had to be reminded that anyone calling for government-licensed reporters (and religions, as one author included) deserves to have their carbon recycled, because of the treason to the BoR. Tim May used to call government licensed citizens special objects. Search

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-l ike Payment Systems

2005-10-25 Thread leichter_jerrold
| U.S. law generally requires that stolen goods be returned to the | original owner without compensation to the current holder, even if | they had been purchased legitimately (from the thief or his agent) by | an innocent third party. This is incorrect. The law draws a distinction between

RE: On special objects, and Judy Miller's treason

2005-10-25 Thread Tyler Durden
Its unfortunate that some posters had to be reminded that anyone calling for government-licensed reporters (and religions, as one author included) deserves to have their carbon recycled, because of the treason to the BoR. Tim May used to call government licensed citizens special objects. Search