Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Dave Howe
J.A. Terranson wrote: Which of course neatly sidesteps the issue that a DRIVERS LICENSE is not identification, it is proof you have some minimum competency to operate a motor vehicle... IIRC, several states have taken to issuing a no compentency driving licence (ie, the area that says what that

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Dave Howe
Riad S. Wahby wrote: ...except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by liquor stores AFAICT. And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes?

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes? Probably not all that many. Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor stores, even an _expired_ passport was useful identification. Can anyone

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Jack Lloyd
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 10:09:26AM -0500, Riad S. Wahby wrote: Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes? Probably not all that many. Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor stores,

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Sunder
Right, just because your Passport or driver's license expired, doesn't mean that you got any younger and therefore shouldn't drink. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\ \|/ :They

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Tyler Durden
] To: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:09:26 -0500 Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes? Probably not all that many. Tangentially, I

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread J.A. Terranson
In both houses, the legislation is geared to respond to numerous recommendations made by the Sept. 11 commission. For years before the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement officials, especially those concerned with identity theft, argued that the states should have more

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Dave Howe
J.A. Terranson wrote: Which of course neatly sidesteps the issue that a DRIVERS LICENSE is not identification, it is proof you have some minimum competency to operate a motor vehicle... IIRC, several states have taken to issuing a no compentency driving licence (ie, the area that says what that

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Few liquor stores (for example) accept anything else. ..except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by liquor stores AFAICT. Imagine that. An _actual_ document of identification being used for approximately the correct purpose. -- Riad S.

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Dave Howe
Riad S. Wahby wrote: ...except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by liquor stores AFAICT. And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes?

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes? Probably not all that many. Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor stores, even an _expired_ passport was useful identification. Can anyone

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Sunder
Right, just because your Passport or driver's license expired, doesn't mean that you got any younger and therefore shouldn't drink. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\ \|/ :They

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Tyler Durden
] To: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:09:26 -0500 Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes? Probably not all that many. Tangentially, I

Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://nytimes.com/2004/10/11/politics/11identity.html?pagewanted=printposition= The New York Times October 11, 2004 Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses By MATTHEW L. WALD ASHINGTON, Oct. 10 - Following a recommendation of the Sept. 11 commission, the House and Senate

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread J.A. Terranson
In both houses, the legislation is geared to respond to numerous recommendations made by the Sept. 11 commission. For years before the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement officials, especially those concerned with identity theft, argued that the states should have more

Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-11 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://nytimes.com/2004/10/11/politics/11identity.html?pagewanted=printposition= The New York Times October 11, 2004 Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses By MATTHEW L. WALD ASHINGTON, Oct. 10 - Following a recommendation of the Sept. 11 commission, the House and Senate