Re: WSJ Encrypted Laptop

2002-06-13 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Aimee Farr wrote: I question how well we correlate strike, protest, subversive activity/agitation/propaganda, and sabotage/IW inferences these days -- especially at home, due to domestic constraints. I would think that would keep a war room quite busy with inference

Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Gutmann
Greg Newby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some electronic journals, some conferences and some print journals now let authors retain copyright or, if they keep copyright, allow authors to do what they please with their work. Usenix is really good with this. You agree not to re-publish anything for a

Re: [Reformatted] EuroNazis want to ban thoughtcrime

2002-06-13 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Eugene Leitl wrote: Let's recapitulate. We have a downunder nutcase who's using this public resource for private dumping ground, while posting *a lot* (including profanity and casual death threats, iirc) and constantly changing his email address, thus avoiding

RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Lucky Green
Peter wrote: (Hmm, I wonder if it can be argued that making stuff intended for public distribution inaccessible violates the creator's moral rights? I know that doesn't apply in the US, but in other countries it might work. Moral rights can't be assigned, so no publisher can take

From the recent past of Homeland defense

2002-06-13 Thread Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2033000/2033324.stm A new book reveals the 22-year effort by FBI director J Edgar Hoover to get Albert Einstein arrested as a political subversive or even a Soviet spy. Uncovered FBI files are revealed in a book by Fred Jerome who says it was a

Re: Snitch jamesd outs himself.

2002-06-13 Thread Jim Choate
As an operator of one of the nodes, versus somebody who is just a subscriber, I'll be happy to state that while clearly a waste of anybody with a clues time the submissions are not distruptive to the list. Nor or they spam. They are within the charter of cryptography (and related technologies),

Re: Pentagon OSI.

2002-06-13 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Aimee Farr wrote: Great bloodshedding that never happened -- due to diplomacy and deception. War is the means, not the ends. No, it's diplomacy by other means. War is only one means, not 'the' means as this would indicate. Americans seem to confuse the two -- a Code

Re: [Reformatted] Eugene Leitl want to ban thoughtcrime,

2002-06-13 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Declan McCullagh wrote: This is the last mattd post I'll see for a while, I expect, since I've updated my kill.rc file. But the prospect of a cypherpunks subscriber threatening to send 2 MB attachments to the list is not a pleasant one. Why? They make 80G drives now for

Re: CDR: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Tom wrote: actually, as with most laws, the basic idea behind the moral rights isn't that bad, it just got perverted. if used differently, the morale rights part could well be used to put a limit on the corporate abuse of copyright. for example, I could envision an

Artist's rights? [was: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet]

2002-06-13 Thread Trei, Peter
From: Mike Rosing[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Lucky Green wrote: The other half of the shears cutting away at the public's right to entertain themselves with the artwork they purchased in any way they please is represented by parts of the art culture of

Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Ken Brown
Lucky Green wrote: Peter wrote: (Hmm, I wonder if it can be argued that making stuff intended for public distribution inaccessible violates the creator's moral rights? I know that doesn't apply in the US, but in other countries it might work. Moral rights can't be assigned, so

Re: CDR: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Tom
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:27:04AM -0700, Mike Rosing wrote: simply dispose of the work, or use it as kindling in his fireplace, once he no longer desires to own it. No, you can't just burn that painting you bought from some street corner painter five years ago. Though you are permitted

Artist's rights?

2002-06-13 Thread Michael Motyka
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Lucky Green wrote: The other half of the shears cutting away at the public's right to entertain themselves with the artwork they purchased in any way they please is represented by parts of the art culture of significant political clout, in particular in Europe.

Re: Artist's rights? [was: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet]

2002-06-13 Thread Ken Brown
These laws don't really get into cyberpunks territory, because they are about rights that are reserved to the original artist, and cannot be transferred to publishers or distributors or record companies, and can only be possessed by natural persons, not corporations. So (in France, not the USA) a

RE: Artist's rights? [was: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet]

2002-06-13 Thread Trei, Peter
Ken Brown[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Trei, Peter wrote: As an example, consider the Richard Serra's 'Tilted Arc', a 12 foot high, 120 foot long, 70 ton slab of rusty (and usually grafitti covered) steel which blocked the entrance to the main Federal building in lower Manhatten for

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2002-06-13 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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