RE: Steven Levy buys Microsoft's bullshit hook, line, and sinker

2002-06-24 Thread Lucky Green
Bram wrote: http://www.msnbc.com/news/770511.asp?cp1=1 Of course, the TCPA has nothing to do with security or privacy, since those are OS-level things. All it can really do is ensure you're running a particular OS. It's amazing the TCPA isn't raising all kinds of red flags at the

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
--- begin forwarded text Status: U Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:53:42 -0700 From: Paul Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ross's TCPA paper To: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 on 6/23/02 6:50 AM, R. A. Hettinga at [EMAIL

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-24 Thread Mike Rosing
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:53:42 -0700 From: Paul Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ross's TCPA paper I would think a TCP _with_ ownership of the TPM would be every paranoid cypherpunk's wet dream. A box which would tell you if it had been tampered with either in hardware or software?

sins of the fathers (brothers, sisters, etc)

2002-06-24 Thread Major Variola (ret)
On Israel's decision to deport families of martyrs: A Palestinian legislator, Salah Tamari, called deporting families an illegal, unlawful and inhuman measure. Why should somebody be accountable for someone elses actions? http://www.news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=685972002 Someone

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-24 Thread Derek Atkins
I, for one, can vouch for the fact that TCPA could absolutely be applied to a DRM application. In a previous life I actually designed a DRM system (the company has since gone under). In our research and development in '96-98, we decided that you need at least some trusted hardware at the client

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-24 Thread Ross Anderson
It's an interesting claim, but there is only one small problem. Neither Ross Anderson nor Lucky Green offers any evidence that the TCPA (http://www.trustedcomputing.org) is being designed for the support of digital rights management (DRM) applications. Microsoft admits it:

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-24 Thread Harry Hawk
It seems clear at least if DRM is an application than DRM applications would benefit from the increased trust and architecturally that such trust would be needed to enforce/ensure some/all of the requirements of the Hollings bill. hawk Lucky Green wrote: other technical solution that

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-24 Thread Adam Shostack
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 08:15:29AM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Status: U Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:53:42 -0700 From: Paul Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ross's TCPA paper To: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] The important question is not whether trusted platforms are a good

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-24 Thread Pete Chown
Anonymous wrote: Furthermore, inherent to the TCPA concept is that the chip can in effect be turned off. No one proposes to forbid you from booting a non-compliant OS or including non-compliant drivers. Good point. At least I hope they don't. :-) There is not even social opprobrium; look

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Book Review: Peter Wayner's Translucent Databases

2002-06-24 Thread Peter Wayner
I think Bob made some great points about my book, but it's clear that this debate is revolving around a few sentences in Bob's review. Perhaps he miscategorizes Brin, perhaps he doesn't. I haven't read _Transparent Society_ in some time. Still, it's important to realize that this isn't just a