On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 12:46 PM, Tyler Durden wrote:
Oh yeah, another thing I wanted to ask about, before I forget.
It's somewhat well-known that throughout the South pacific, there are
radio stations that do nothing but broadcast the real-time reading
of number sequences, but
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote:
Damn what a pack of geeks! (Looks like I might end up liking this list!)
It's full of nut cases too :-)
I have not, however, heretofore considered that there could exist systems
that had some form of completeness built in. My intuition (which is
All religions are complete systems. Some people consider them useful,
but I'm not sure it classifies as the real world.
:-)
I've wondered about that...I suspect that if God exists, then He is true but
unprovable in any useful system!
-TD
PS: According to Godel's biographer, Godel at one point
Jim Choate wrote:
What I'd like to know is does Godel's apply to all forms of
para-consistent logic as well
And I replied:
No. There are consistent systems, and complete systems, that do not admit
Godel's theorem, but apparently not a system that is both (although even the
last is
The Yodel does not have a web site where yodels can be converted into
some other form of money, and other forms of money converted into
Yodels.
Instead it has an IIRC bot. Use of this bot is described at
http://yodel.deep-ice.com/bankbot.html
This means a command line interface, to do
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 09:12 AM, Tyler Durden wrote:
All religions are complete systems. Some people consider them useful,
but I'm not sure it classifies as the real world.
:-)
I've wondered about that...I suspect that if God exists, then He is
true but unprovable in any useful
a) Those friggin' war-posters are hilarious.
b) Downstairs and across the street in front of Starbucks I just saw two NYC
cops holding what looked like AK-47s...on their backs it said Emergency
Coercive Unit.
_
Protect your PC -
Damn what a pack of geeks! (Looks like I might end up liking this list!)
When we say complete, are we talking about completeness in the Godelian
sense? According to Godel, and formal system (except for the possibility of
the oddballs mentioned below--I hadn't heard of this possibility) is
At 10:59 -0500 on 11/13/02, Tyler Durden wrote:
b) Downstairs and across the street in front of Starbucks I just saw
two NYC cops holding what looked like AK-47s...on their backs it
said Emergency Coercive Unit.
I always knew New York was full of commie bastards. I thought they
were smart
Jim Choate wrote:
What I'd like to know is does Godel's apply to all forms of
para-consistent logic as well
It applies to any sufficiently complex axiomatic system. Allegedly.
Cheers,
Ben.
--
http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/
There is no limit to what a
The ones we used to hear on the shortwave in Europe were enciphered
transmissions to agents from their controllers. Most of the numbers
broadcasts originated in the East Bloc, but there's no reason to suppose
that the West didn't use them for agent communications as well.
At least in the
Hmm, interesting -- how come the original of this came never came thru
lne.com? And I think there's been at least a couple of others lately that I only
saw in someone quote -- wasn't 100% sure about them, but I am this one.
Gary Jeffers writes:
The purpose of the coming Iraq war is
How can anyone claim that the U.S. or Israel or corporations or rich
Americans are morally worse than the likes of Hussein?
Can't answer that directly, aside from pointing out that theUS is largely
responsible for Hussein's rise to power. I could be argued that oil in our
hands has created many
Gary Jeffers writes:
The purpose of the coming Iraq war is to steal their oil. After we get
Iraq oil, which arab country is next? If U. State can get away with the
theft of Iraq, then why not just keep on stealing?
The beneficiaries of this war are:
1. United State:
2. Corporations,
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
What I'd like to know is does Godel's apply to all forms of
para-consistent logic as well
And I replied:
No. There are consistent systems, and complete systems, that do not admit
Godel's theorem, but apparently not
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:12:34 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The End of the Golden Age of Crypto
All religions are complete systems. Some people consider them useful,
but I'm not sure it classifies as the real world.
:-)
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Sam Ritchie wrote:
That's the whole deal with the bible, and its various internal
contradictions. If anything can be proven true in the bible, then there's no
room for faith anymore, which nullifies religious beliefs; and if anything
can be proven false, then there's no
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 03:10:13AM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Gary Jeffers writes:
The purpose of the coming Iraq war is to steal their oil. After we get
Iraq oil, which arab country is next? If U. State can get away with the
theft of Iraq, then why not just keep on stealing?
The
[ I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but there might be someone out there who could
benefit from this. ]
Tyler Durden wrote:
Aside from this is the issue of continued American dependence on oil, a dependence
that could be greatly reduced if we put our minds to it, but we seem to be so
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