Oh no, I fully understood those arguments and conceeded that in certain
scenarios such ethnic groups might experience disproportionate amounts of
impact.
However, when we start talking about actively putting them up the chimneys,
then we've moved into making such ethnic groups targets.
- Original Message -
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving
At 07:47 PM 12/9/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
If the Klan doesn't have
a right to wear pillowcases what makes you think mixmaster will
survive?
Well besides the
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
Those cops you taught...do you think they were stupid enough to assume that,
because this was their first time hearing about Stego, that Al Qaeda was
only starting to use it right then?
Thats an interesting question on several different levels:
(1)
J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
Those cops you taught...do you think they were stupid enough to assume that,
because this was their first time hearing about Stego, that Al Qaeda was
only starting to use it right then?
Thats an interesting question on several
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 9, 2004 2:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages
..
NSA folks, on the other hand, I would assume have a soft
Process and perception
This capacity for making high order discriminations about relationships
between objects in our world, can be taken as the proper function of our
cognitive competency. The attribute of intentionality, to this way of
thinking, is best understood as work product of a discrete
At 07:46 PM 12/9/04 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote:
--- Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps I am stupid. I don't know how one would go about modifying
application software to include a 'back door' that would presumably
enhance its suceptibility to TEMPEST attacks. Isn't tempest
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Steve Thompson wrote:
snip one of the funniest posts in recent cpunk history
(STANDING OVATION) (SOUNDS OF MANY HANDS CLAPPING)
Thank you Steve, for that short but entertaining look into the dark
recesses of our collective consciousness :-)
--
Yours,
J.A. Terranson
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Thompson wrote:
[take back the night]
Yep, the state fights to preserve its life
while the people suffer their own.
The mistake of top down thinking
lies in the inability to really model large populations with rules,
too much of the
R.W. (Bob) Erickson wrote:
(curious thing about this spew, it keeps disappearing into the bit
bucket,
Yawn. Roboposting this babble doesn't really increase its chances of
getting read. I work through JY because I know there's uranium in that
ore. But I'm about 2 posts away from ensconcing
Process and perception
This capacity for making high order discriminations about relationships
between objects in our world, can be taken as the proper function of our
cognitive competency. The attribute of intentionality, to this way of
thinking, is best understood as work product of a
And don't forget...Spam is a good thing as long as it doesn't clog the
Mixmaster bandwidth.
-TD
From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: punkly current events
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:19:26 -0600 (CST)
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004,
At 6:43 PM -0800 12/9/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Just for the newbies, these are all bearer instruments, in RAHspeak.
Now, *that* I wasn't paying attention to, having just seen the omigawd,
more financial proctology aspects at the beginning of the article.
Thank you.
Cheers,
RAH
--
At 04:50 PM 12/10/04 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
The change is minor and TSA officials say they have no plans to rescind
pat-down procedures that require screeners to touch passengers' chest
and
groin areas while checking for weapons or explosives. Nevertheless, it
represents an attempt by the
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Steve Thompson wrote:
While we're speaking of pot, I should note that the grass available in
this neck of the woods is substandard at best. What with all the illegal
suburban grow-ops in Toronto, you'd think one would be able to buy
half-decent weed from time to time.
R.A. Hettinga wrote:
At 10:56 AM -0500 12/10/04, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
But I'm about 2 posts away from ensconcing RWBE in my procmail
file
What's taking you so long?
:-)
Cheers,
RAH
cf: various imprecations against feeding trolls cet...
Aww, come on guys
i only eat little sheep
and i
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 06:53:26AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Name a place which is not subject to US juridiction? Ok, Iran, N Kr,
Most places outside US which are not banana republics. I'm living in one.
until
we pull a regime change (tm) on them. Yeah, they have a lot of 'net
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Eugen Leitl wrote:
If mixter won't survive, it's due to spammers, and malware spreaders.
I disagree. Except for the early days, spammers have been little more
than a low volume nuisance on Mix. What killed mix was it's complexity -
Joe Blow can't figure out how to use
--- Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps I am stupid. I don't know how one would go about modifying
application software to include a 'back door' that would presumably
enhance its suceptibility to TEMPEST attacks. Isn't tempest all about
EM
spectrum signal detection and
The secular bible: Our project
First let me speak to my Christian brothers and sisters. I mean you no
disrespect by using the term bible in an unholy attack on your faith.
The project of this secular bible honors the sanctity of holy documents.
A secular bible could only be true to itself is it
- Original Message -
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: punkly current events
If the Klan doesn't have
a right to wear pillowcases what makes you think mixmaster will
survive?
Well besides the misinterprettaion of the ruling, which I will ignore, what
makes you think
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
And don't forget...Spam is a good thing as long as it doesn't clog the
Mixmaster bandwidth.
No, it's not. There are other things that can produce the same cover
effects: cron jobs or daemons that fire off random chaff work just as
well, without the
At 09:47 PM 12/10/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
Wardriving is also basically dead.
On the contrary. A recent article (zdnet IIRC) described a non-hacker
visiting his father, and using a neighbor's connection accidentally.
This is very common. My own non-tech father regularly finds
other nets
If you also consider the fact that I have been variously poisoned in
recent years with everything from sedatives to stimulants to hormones to
psychoactive compounds to low-level hallucinogens, and as well have been
subjected to uncounted appeals to my subconscious in the main through the
use of
At 01:19 PM 12/10/04 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
I disagree. Except for the early days, spammers have been little more
than a low volume nuisance on Mix. What killed mix was it's complexity
-
Joe Blow can't figure out how to use it, and new reops have a hell of a
time getting a node running
Joseph Ashwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I regularly drive down through Los Angeles, when I have stopped
for gas or food and checked I rarely see an unprotected network.
This seems like a peculiarity of your location. Here in Austin almost
all of downtown is covered by free wireless.
--
Riad
--- John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[May]
Maybe, maybe not. The thing I always find interesting and annoying
about Tim May's posts is that he's sometimes making really clearly
thought out, intelligent points, and other times spewing out nonsense so
crazy you can't believe it's coming
Someone should have commented here, so I will, that some judges (earning
hanging) basically said that anonymity is not a right. This
in the context of mask-wearing in public. If the Klan doesn't have
a right to wear pillowcases what makes you think mixmaster will
survive?
Tyler Durden wrote:
Well, when you put it that way, that changes everything.
All is now clear. Please continue downloading the syntactic mappings
of random neural firing...I'm using your output to seed a random
number generator.
Oh, and don't forget to cc Choate.
-TD
You could do worse, my
Say what you mean, mean what you say
Speaking in metaphor is anti-social
If I cant understand you,
I cannot trust you.
Encrypted, encoded, or implied
Secrets are a threat to the homeland
Steve Thompson wrote:
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Thompson wrote:
[assholes]
You tell them, Steve
I believe I just did.
Insanity is a great cover for an insurectionist!
I suppose it could be, although I am give to belive that residents of the
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
Joseph Ashwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I regularly drive down through Los Angeles, when I have stopped
for gas or food and checked I rarely see an unprotected network.
This seems like a peculiarity of your location. Here in Austin almost
all of
In my family there's a famous story told of a particular musician who was
busted on marijuana possession. His defense: But your honor...it was only
lemonade.
-TD
From: Steve Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Word Of the Subgenius...
--- Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2004-12-10T15:50:22-0500, Steve Thompson wrote:
[snip]
state's personality, the state has the right, nay, obligation to
preserve
its identity unchanged. (Isn't this pretty much polysci 101
material?)
Not typically. The idea that the state has
At 10:16 PM -0500 12/9/04, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
Imagine using observed timing to conclude that your agent provocateur
operates from geostationary orbit.
..And here I thought VALIS was all in his head...
Cheers,
RAH
--
-
R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Internet
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 06:33:09PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Someone should have commented here, so I will, that some judges (earning
hanging) basically said that anonymity is not a right. This
in the context of mask-wearing in public. If the Klan doesn't have
a right to wear
At 11:13 AM 12/10/04 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Because nodes are not geographically constrained to US jurisdiction?
Name a place which is not subject to US juridiction? Ok, Iran, N Kr,
until
we pull a regime change (tm) on them. Yeah, they have a lot of 'net
bandwidth, right.
Some of the
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Trei, Peter wrote:
J.A. Terranson wrote:
(4) I have yet to meet a full dozen people who share my
belief that while stego *may* be in use, if it is, that
use is for one way messages of semaphore-class messages
only. I really do not understand why this view
is
Maybe, but I think it would be very hard to write a general-purpose stego
detector, without knowing the techniques used for encoding the message.
And if you know the distribution of your cover channel as well as your
attacker, or can generate lots of values from that distribution even if
you
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, R.W. (Bob) Erickson wrote:
Perhaps LEA confuse themselves thinking al-q is inciting a cultural
revolution?
In all seriousness, there is some of that fear within the LE community.
I'm sure it's about the same as when the weathermen were running around
the pentagon's
Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
R.W. (Bob) Erickson wrote:
(curious thing about this spew, it keeps disappearing into the bit
bucket,
Yawn. Roboposting this babble doesn't really increase its chances of
getting read. I work through JY because I know there's uranium in
that ore. But I'm about 2
Steve Thompson wrote:
--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lions and Tigers and Steganography, Nell...
For those of you without a program, here is the new, official, Horsemen
of
the Infocalypse Scorecard:
At 3:14 PM -0400 10/3/04, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Horseman Color
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Sounds like a fuckin' party, if you ask me! Quit bogartin' that J...
Oh, sure. It wasn't all bad. Just ask the chick who is known in certain
circles as Nefertiti. (That's her code-name). We had an excellent time
together; or at least we
Steve Thompson wrote:
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Imagine a paranoia involving mysterious e-mail delays and the length
of time it takes to catagorize
Imagine hordes of otherwise unemployable psychologists and cognitive
psychologists deployed on mailing lists and
--- Roy M. Silvernail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Thompson wrote:
[imagine]
Imagine using observed timing to conclude that your agent provocateur
operates from geostationary orbit.
That would be a neat trick considering the variety of likely signal path
lengths to be found in the
There were some talk about archives here recently.
I found two here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/index.php?hunt=cypherpunks
And this does indeed seem to be an active archive of the list:
http://www.mail-archive.com/cypherpunks%40minder.net/
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Process and perception
[snip]
We have lots of timing to tap. Response times, flicker fusion times,
saccades, pulse, peristalsis, menstruation. The royal road to cognitive
illumination is the path of chronus.
If you go about tapping the
At 10:56 AM -0500 12/10/04, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
But I'm about 2 posts away from ensconcing RWBE in my procmail
file
What's taking you so long?
:-)
Cheers,
RAH
cf: various imprecations against feeding trolls cet...
--
-
R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Internet
Eugen Leitl
You could claim your machine was infected with
mixmaster malware, or something.
Now that would be an interesting worm - one
which, instead of installing a spamalator,
installed a remailer and posted public keys
and contact info to usenet.
(Disclaimer: No, I don't do things like
Well, when you put it that way, that changes everything.
All is now clear. Please continue downloading the syntactic mappings of
random neural firing...I'm using your output to seed a random number
generator.
Oh, and don't forget to cc Choate.
-TD
From: R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2004-12-10T15:50:22-0500, Steve Thompson wrote:
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Thompson wrote:
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Colouring outside the lines]
Yes, you have a point there.I guess a better cover would be as local
(curious thing about this spew, it keeps disappearing into the bit
bucket, I know its raw verbiage, but is it so incoherent it
self-destructs? -bob)
Process and perception
This capacity for making high order discriminations about relationships
between objects in our world, can be taken as the
Communication is about context
Sometimes the context is so obvious that the frame is nearly invisible,
sometimes the context is so subtle that indications of obvious
significance can only be detected after much study.
Language and meaning involve sharing of contexts.
This is obvious, what is
Tyler Durden wrote:
As to the crypto relevance: context Arranged signals can be anything
at all. If you don't share the context of the communicators, you have
no idea what they convey in their conversation about the whether.
That's a stretch. Soon you'll say that Post-modernist literary theory
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 06:01:25AM -0500, Gabriel Rocha wrote:
The latter statement my well be true, I don't use the network, nor know
the ratios of good/bad traffic. But I am very curious to find out what
I don't have data either. I'm guessing the bad traffic part is 95-98%.
(I'm
At 6:33 PM -0800 12/9/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
If the Klan doesn't have
a right to wear pillowcases what makes you think mixmaster will
survive?
Which was me point, mutters Killick, under his breath...
Cheers,
RAH
--
-
R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Internet
Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
Steve Thompson wrote:
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Imagine a paranoia involving mysterious e-mail delays and the
length of time it takes to catagorize
Imagine hordes of otherwise unemployable psychologists and cognitive
psychologists deployed
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the tools currently being used in the cognitive sciences is the
measurement of reaction time to stimulus.
What's this? The cognitive equivalent to wacking someone on the knee with
a rubber hammer to measure the mentak kick reflex of
As to the crypto relevance: context Arranged signals can be anything at
all. If you don't share the context of the communicators, you have no idea
what they convey in their conversation about the whether.
That's a stretch. Soon you'll say that Post-modernist literary theory is
Cypherpunkish
J.A. Terranson wrote:
(4) I have yet to meet a full dozen people who share my
belief that while stego *may* be in use, if it is, that
use is for one way messages of semaphore-class messages
only. I really do not understand why this view
is poopoo'd by all sides, so I must be pretty dense?
From: MULLER Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:33:39 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
Right, I would have cited Dellarocas' papers also because he is the only=20
one I know that worked on this subject.
However, IMHO, his claim that size of history doesn't matter is
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Thompson wrote:
[assholes]
You tell them, Steve
I believe I just did.
Insanity is a great cover for an insurectionist!
I suppose it could be, although I am give to belive that residents of the
White Room Hotel may only carry out
On Dec 10 2004, Eugen Leitl wrote:
|
| Because nodes are not geographically constrained to US jurisdiction?
|
| If mixter won't survive, it's due to spammers, and malware spreaders.
The latter statement my well be true, I don't use the network, nor know
the ratios of good/bad
--- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Steve Thompson wrote:
snip one of the funniest posts in recent cpunk history
(STANDING OVATION) (SOUNDS OF MANY HANDS CLAPPING)
Thank you Steve, for that short but entertaining look into the dark
recesses of our
Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
R.W. (Bob) Erickson wrote:
(curious thing about this spew, it keeps disappearing into the bit
bucket,
Yawn. Roboposting this babble doesn't really increase its chances of
getting read. I work through JY because I know there's uranium in
that ore. But I'm about 2
At 11:21 AM 12/9/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
Well, May seemed to try to make the case that all of those useles
eaters
were in large part responsible for the very existence of the state, and
that
collapse of the state meant the inevitable downfall of huge numbers of
minorities (why he focused on
At 07:47 PM 12/9/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
If the Klan doesn't have
a right to wear pillowcases what makes you think mixmaster will
survive?
Well besides the misinterprettaion of the ruling, which I will ignore,
what
makes you think MixMaster isn't already dead?
OK, substitute
CodeCon 4.0
February 11-13, 2005
San Francisco CA, USA
www.codecon.org
Call For Papers
CodeCon is the premier showcase of cutting edge software development. It
is an excellent opportunity for programmers to demonstrate their work and
keep abreast of what's going on in their community.
All
From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 9, 2004 1:19 PM
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages
.
As recently as two years ago, I had a
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