On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, R. Hirschfeld wrote:
A trivial observation: this cannot be true across hardware platforms.
Untrue, just use a VM. Open Boot Forth would do nicely.
TCPA claims to be platform and OS agnostic, but Palladium does not.
Have fun in that there tarpit.
On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, Russell Nelson wrote:
AARG!Anonymous writes:
I'd like the Palladium/TCPA critics to offer an alternative proposal
for achieving the following technical goal:
Allow computers separated on the internet to cooperate and share data
and computations such
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From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Because of the sophistication of modern processors there are too many
variables too be optimized easily, and doing so can be extremely costly.
Because of this diversity, many compilers use
AARG!Anonymous writes:
I'd like the Palladium/TCPA critics to offer an alternative proposal
for achieving the following technical goal:
Allow computers separated on the internet to cooperate and share data
and computations such that no one can get access to the data outside
the
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:30:09 -0700
From: AARG!Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re the debate over whether compilers reliably produce identical object
(executable) files:
The measurement and hashing in TCPA/Palladium will probably not be done
on the file itself, but on the executable content
On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Matt Crawford wrote:
Unless the application author can predict the exact output of the
compilers, he can't issue a signature on the object code. The
Same version of compiler on same source using same build produces
identical binaries.
compilers then have to be inside
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, David Howe wrote:
It doesn't though - that is the point. I am not sure if it is simply
that there are timestamps in the final executable, but Visual C (to give
a common example, as that is what the windows PGP builds compile with)
will not give an identical binary, even
James A. Donald wrote:
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On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Matt Crawford wrote:
Unless the application author can predict the exact output of
the compilers, he can't issue a signature on the object code.
The
On 9 Aug 2002 at 10:48, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Same version of compiler on same
I'm not surprised that most people couldn't produce a matching PGP
executbales - most compilers (irrespective of compiler optimisation
options etc) include a timestamp in the executable.
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:50:29 -0700
From: AARG!Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd like the Palladium/TCPA critics to offer an alternative proposal
for achieving the following technical goal:
Allow computers separated on the internet to cooperate and share data
and computations such
I'd like the Palladium/TCPA critics to offer an alternative proposal
for achieving the following technical goal:
Allow computers separated on the internet to cooperate and share data
and computations such that no one can get access to the data outside
the limitations and rules imposed
Anon wrote:
You could even have each participant compile the program himself,
but still each app can recognize the others on the network and
cooperate with them.
Matt Crawford replied:
Unless the application author can predict the exact output of the
compilers, he can't issue a signature on
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 21:55:40 +0200
From: R. Hirschfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:50:29 -0700
From: AARG!Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd like the Palladium/TCPA critics to offer an alternative proposal
for achieving the following technical goal:
Allow
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