Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: how do you know that apples and oranges are not same or are same? Its the way you look at it. No, ever see Apple and Oranges cross-breed? -THEY- look at it that way too. So there -is- something there to the cladistic viewpoint. --

Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-04 Thread Sarad AV
hi, --- Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: As you already see-what you say is correct for your definition of proof and axiom. Here is the fundamental error in your thinking, you are trying to argue apples and oranges. how do you know that

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: An axiom is an improvable statement which is accepted as true. An axiom is a statement which is -assumed to be universaly required-. That is -not- equivalent to 'true' (eg A point has only position is not 'true' but a -definition- which is neither true or

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-03 Thread Sarad AV
hi, --- Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: An axiom is an improvable statement which is accepted as true. An axiom is a statement which is -assumed to be universaly required-. That is -not- equivalent to 'true' (eg A point has only position is

Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: As you already see-what you say is correct for your definition of proof and axiom. Here is the fundamental error in your thinking, you are trying to argue apples and oranges. As my comments alude to, what you are doing is trying to argue geometry using two

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-02 Thread Sarad AV
hi, --- Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote: Does a paradox ever help in understanding any thing? Yes, it can demonstrate that you aren't asking the right questions within the correct context. okay. 2.Gödel asks for the program and the

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote: Does a paradox ever help in understanding any thing? Yes, it can demonstrate that you aren't asking the right questions within the correct context. We define a paradox on a base of rules we want to prove. No, a paradox is two things we accept that

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2002-12-31 Thread Sarad AV
increases without bound. If the answer is yes, that might suggest that any TOE based on all possible computations is too small to accomodate a really general notion of all possible universes. And this general line of reasoning leads to a Many Worlds Version of the Fermi Paradox: Why

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2002-12-31 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: And this general line of reasoning leads to a Many Worlds Version of the Fermi Paradox: Why aren't they here? Why aren't they all where? If they were 'here' then they wouldn't be another world now would they? The reason I lean toward the shut up

Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2002-12-30 Thread Tim May
suggest that any TOE based on all possible computations is too small to accomodate a really general notion of all possible universes. And this general line of reasoning leads to a Many Worlds Version of the Fermi Paradox: Why aren't they here? The reason I lean toward the shut up and calculate