Re: Photos in transport plane of prisoners: Time for eJazeera?

2002-11-11 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Adam Shostack wrote: A full police state can't prevent anything, it can just make some things less common. For example, samizdat in the USSR still got copied and passed around. Drug use is a problem in US prisons. Etc. that kind of info can be limited by simply

Re: Photos in transport plane of prisoners: Time for eJazeera?

2002-11-10 Thread Morlock Elloi
Any wide-dissemination system must be distributed. Usenet used to fill this role, but due to aggregation of major nodes and feeds it is not that any more. Anything on the web has fixed pointers and already is or soon will be become chokable. I'd be surprised if there is no development in progress

Re: Photos in transport plane of prisoners: Time for eJazeera?

2002-11-10 Thread Adam Shostack
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:10:22PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: | As long as there are people in the military who are willing and able to | inform us on what they are *really* doing, we actually can feel pretty | comfortable with their missions. It's gonna take a full polilce state | to prevent the

Re: Photos in transport plane of prisoners: Time for eJazeera?

2002-11-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Specific use-cases can be written: the GI who took the picture; the photo-developer-tech who kept copies; the bored netop who intercepted the pix; an activist who is under insert type surveillance. Anyone interested? And what does it mean (if

Re: Photos in transport plane of prisoners: Time for eJazeera?

2002-11-09 Thread Greg Newby
Here's the URL, I haven't noticed it in this message thread yet: http://www.artbell.com/letters88.html -- gbn On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:32:18PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: The subject line says it all, if one remembers Variola's clever dare. As far as I'm concerned, this big

Re: Photos in transport plane of prisoners: Time for eJazeera?

2002-11-09 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:32 PM 11/9/02 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: So I'm still playing with the idea of a publically-accessible document that outlines the strategies, technologies, aims and requirements for somehow uploading images and data to public repositorioes. Such a document should enumerate the threat model

Photos in transport plane of prisoners: Time for eJazeera?

2002-11-09 Thread Tyler Durden
The subject line says it all, if one remembers Variola's clever dare. As far as I'm concerned, this big brother bullshit should work two ways: any tyrrany should expect that any public actions will make it onto the net somewhere. Of course, one day they'll probably begin a set of countermoves,