Re: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-13 Thread John Kelsey
From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 10, 2005 7:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire .. Some gun accidents are suicides reported as such to avoid embarrassment to the family. I've heard this from other people, too--some in reasonably

RE: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-11 Thread Trei, Peter
Justin wrote: I don't believe the article when it says that smart guns are useless if stolen. What do they have, a tamper-proof memory chip storing a 128-bit reprogramming authorization key that must be input via computer before allowing a new person to be authorized? And what's to

RE: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-11 Thread Trei, Peter
Justin wrote: On 2005-01-11T10:07:22-0500, Trei, Peter wrote: Justin wrote: I don't believe the article when it says that smart guns are useless if stolen. What do they have, a tamper-proof memory chip storing a 128-bit reprogramming authorization key that must be input via computer

RE: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-11 Thread Trei, Peter
Justin wrote: On 2005-01-10T15:04:21-0500, Trei, Peter wrote: John Kelsey Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire By ANNE EISENBERG I just wonder what the false negative rates are. Seem like a A remarkable number of police deaths are 'own gun'

Re: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-11 Thread Justin
On 2005-01-11T10:07:22-0500, Trei, Peter wrote: Justin wrote: I don't believe the article when it says that smart guns are useless if stolen. What do they have, a tamper-proof memory chip storing a 128-bit reprogramming authorization key that must be input via computer before allowing

Re: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-11 Thread Justin
On 2005-01-10T15:42:47-0500, Tyler Durden wrote: And we'll probably have many years of non-Smart-Gun type accidents...eg, Drunk guy at party put gun to his head and blew his own brains out, assuming it was a smart gun, or, trailer park momma gives gun to toddler assuming its a safe smart

Re: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-11 Thread Justin
On 2005-01-10T15:04:21-0500, Trei, Peter wrote: John Kelsey Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire By ANNE EISENBERG I just wonder what the false negative rates are. Seem like a A remarkable number of police deaths are 'own gun' incidents, so the police do have

Re: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-10 Thread John Kelsey
From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 6, 2005 11:47 AM To: cryptography@metzdowd.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire .. Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire By ANNE EISENBERG I just wonder what the false negative rates

RE: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-10 Thread Trei, Peter
John Kelsey Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire By ANNE EISENBERG I just wonder what the false negative rates are. Seem like a gun that has a 1% chance of refusing to fire when you *really need it* might not be worth all that much. Similarly, one that you can't get

RE: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-10 Thread Bill Stewart
At 12:04 PM 1/10/2005, Trei, Peter wrote: For a gun to work, it is just as important that it fires when it should, as that it does not fire when it shouldn't. A safety system which delays firing by even half a second, or which introduces a significant false rejection rate (and 1% is way over the

RE: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire

2005-01-10 Thread Tyler Durden
Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED],R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED], cryptography@metzdowd.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:04:21 -0500 John Kelsey Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire