RE: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-08 Thread Lucky Green
Adam Stenseth wrote: Just for my own edification, does this apply to landline service as well(or other government-sanctioned monopolies)? For example, are your calling habits and landline number assets of your phone company? Many of them seem to think so. Yes, they are. Just as

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-08 Thread Tyler Durden
Technological solutions are preferable over statist solutions (which don't usually even work, as the statists write the rules and exempt themselves and their friends). Ya know Tim May, you say a lotta crazy shit but every now and then you say something that really makes some sense.

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-08 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 06:20 PM, Lucky Green wrote: Harmon Seaver wrote: Tim mentioned cell phones and the lack of telemarketing calls on his, but really that's only because, at this point at least, the cellphone number lists haven't been sold. This might change in the near

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 06:20:02PM -0800, Lucky Green wrote: Harmon Seaver wrote: Tim mentioned cell phones and the lack of telemarketing calls on his, but really that's only because, at this point at least, the cellphone number lists haven't been sold. This might change in the near

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-07 Thread Tim May
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 02:15 PM, jet wrote: At 12:08 -0800 2002/12/06, Tim May wrote: If you don't wish to be telephoned, keep your number secret. One word: wardialing. Three words: screen your calls (as many of us already do). Many of us have at least two phone numbers: one

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-07 Thread Tim May
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 04:53 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: Tim mentioned cell phones and the lack of telemarketing calls on his, but really that's only because, at this point at least, the cellphone number lists haven't been sold. This might change in the near future, as several

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-07 Thread Dave Howe
Tim May wrote: Many of us have at least two phone numbers: one that is widely accessible, published even. Another that is private, often a cellphone. In my 6 years of using a cellphone, whose number I do not give out to many, I have only gotten two spam calls that I know of: both were from a

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-07 Thread Tim May
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 05:49 PM, Adam Stenseth wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: If Bob wants to have a cellphone number that is not sold to others, he should make arrangements with the cellphone company. Just for my own edification, does this apply to landline service as

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-07 Thread Sunder
I was thinking of disabling all the ringers in my phones and setting up an old Mac with a cid enabled modem to announce all calls. The unavailable ones it would keep silent for. :) Getting wires all over the house and a PA amp is the part I haven't done yet. Could work well as an alarm clock

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-06 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: But I have utilized a stopgap strategy for a number of years now that has worked pretty good: 1) If I hear silence for more than a moment or two I hang up the phone. Yeah, I've done that for a while now. But here in wisconsin (USA) we have a new law

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-06 Thread Greg Pelcak
But I have utilized a stopgap strategy for a number of years now that has worked pretty good: From a former telemarketer, the best strategy is to use federal law to your advantage. Federal law requires telemarketers to maintain a do not call list, which is rather self explainatory. I think

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-06 Thread Tyler Durden
I'll have to try this (and it should work seeing how I'm Tyler Durden!). But I have utilized a stopgap strategy for a number of years now that has worked pretty good: 1) If I hear silence for more than a moment or two I hang up the phone. 2) If I hear a large number of people talking in the

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-06 Thread Harmon Seaver
Yeah, but that stuff doesn't stop the calls. We use caller ID and don't pick up for anything that says unknown caller which stops most, but just the ringing pisses me off. I'm going to try the tones. I've also read of a little box you can buy which does the same thing, but so you don't even

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-06 Thread jet
At 12:08 -0800 2002/12/06, Tim May wrote: If you don't wish to be telephoned, keep your number secret. One word: wardialing. -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stuff, damnit: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-06 Thread Greg Pelcak
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 02:08 PM, Tim May wrote: Consider this. I have your phone number, either through a phone book or told to me or however gotten, fully legally. I call your number. I offer something, perhaps something for sale, whatever. I believe the law in question specifies

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-06 Thread Tim May
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 10:10 AM, Greg Pelcak wrote: The best way to say it is Please add me to your do not call list, you don't need any confirmation after that, you can just hang up. Some telemarketers will try to read you a disclaimer saying that it may take up to 30 days to

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-06 Thread Steve Schear
At 12:08 PM 12/6/2002 -0800, Tim May wrote: On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 10:10 AM, Greg Pelcak wrote: The best way to say it is Please add me to your do not call list, you don't need any confirmation after that, you can just hang up. Some telemarketers will try to read you a disclaimer