Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Gutmann
Greg Newby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some electronic journals, some conferences and some print journals now let authors retain copyright or, if they keep copyright, allow authors to do what they please with their work. Usenix is really good with this. You agree not to re-publish anything for a

RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Lucky Green
Peter wrote: (Hmm, I wonder if it can be argued that making stuff intended for public distribution inaccessible violates the creator's moral rights? I know that doesn't apply in the US, but in other countries it might work. Moral rights can't be assigned, so no publisher can take

Re: CDR: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Tom wrote: actually, as with most laws, the basic idea behind the moral rights isn't that bad, it just got perverted. if used differently, the morale rights part could well be used to put a limit on the corporate abuse of copyright. for example, I could envision an

Artist's rights? [was: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet]

2002-06-13 Thread Trei, Peter
From: Mike Rosing[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Lucky Green wrote: The other half of the shears cutting away at the public's right to entertain themselves with the artwork they purchased in any way they please is represented by parts of the art culture of

Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Ken Brown
Lucky Green wrote: Peter wrote: (Hmm, I wonder if it can be argued that making stuff intended for public distribution inaccessible violates the creator's moral rights? I know that doesn't apply in the US, but in other countries it might work. Moral rights can't be assigned, so

Re: CDR: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Tom
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:27:04AM -0700, Mike Rosing wrote: simply dispose of the work, or use it as kindling in his fireplace, once he no longer desires to own it. No, you can't just burn that painting you bought from some street corner painter five years ago. Though you are permitted

Re: Artist's rights? [was: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet]

2002-06-13 Thread Ken Brown
These laws don't really get into cyberpunks territory, because they are about rights that are reserved to the original artist, and cannot be transferred to publishers or distributors or record companies, and can only be possessed by natural persons, not corporations. So (in France, not the USA) a

RE: Artist's rights? [was: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet]

2002-06-13 Thread Trei, Peter
Ken Brown[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Trei, Peter wrote: As an example, consider the Richard Serra's 'Tilted Arc', a 12 foot high, 120 foot long, 70 ton slab of rusty (and usually grafitti covered) steel which blocked the entrance to the main Federal building in lower Manhatten for

Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-11 Thread Tim May
On Monday, June 10, 2002, at 08:55 PM, Greg Newby wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:53:05PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: My experience with scientific journals is more than a few years old. Do any of youse have personal experience with publishing both several years ago and recently? Not

Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-11 Thread Greg Newby
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:53:05PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: On Monday 10 June 2002 22:20, Jim Choate wrote: On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Jason Holt wrote: copyright issues? Why haven't I seen other papers published on usenet and such before going to press? This is a joke right?