J.A. Terranson wrote:
Which of course neatly sidesteps the issue that a DRIVERS LICENSE is
not identification, it is proof you have some minimum competency to
operate a motor vehicle...
IIRC, several states have taken to issuing a no compentency driving
licence (ie, the area that says what that
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Few liquor stores (for example) accept anything else.
..except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by
liquor stores AFAICT.
Imagine that. An _actual_ document of identification being used for
approximately the correct purpose.
--
Riad S.
From: Steve Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 9, 2004 7:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Implant replaces ID cards for access to restricted areas.
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 02:20, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Mexican Attorney General, Staff Get Chip Implants
Implant replaces ID cards for access
Riad S. Wahby wrote:
...except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by
liquor stores AFAICT.
And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification
purposes?
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification
purposes?
Probably not all that many.
Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor
stores, even an _expired_ passport was useful identification. Can
anyone
Right, just because your Passport or driver's license expired, doesn't
mean that you got any younger and therefore shouldn't drink.
--Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos---
+ ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\
\|/ :They
Can't specifically confirm that, but this last summer I traveled to several
countries (and back into the US) using an expired passport as ID (and no,
they didn't just forget to read the date, the expired passport was
officially acceptable).
-TD
From: Riad S. Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
DNS seems to resolve, but never get to the web server.
--Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos---
+ ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\
\|/ :They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country /\|/\
--*--:and our people,
The site has been overloaded for a couple of days due
to heavy hits on files on the Indymedia UK takedown
and the Bush bulge. A Slashdot attack added to that
yesterday but has gone away. Today The Reg cited
the Bush bulge file and the overload restarted. It'll
pass shortly, maybe.
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 12, 2004 1:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cash, Credit -- or Prints?
..
Very interesting question. I'd bet almost any amount of money that it's
fairly trivial to simply alligator-clip-out the fingerprint's file from
Can anyone explain how sophisticated those fingerprint readers are?
Are there readers out there that by themselves are secure devices and
essentially are able to talk with their servers thru the
PCs/workstations over a protocol such that any man-in-the-middle, like a
driver, can not learn
http://nytimes.com/2004/10/11/politics/11identity.html?pagewanted=printposition=
The New York Times
October 11, 2004
Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
By MATTHEW L. WALD
ASHINGTON, Oct. 10 - Following a recommendation of the Sept. 11 commission,
the House and Senate
In both houses, the legislation is geared to respond to numerous
recommendations made by the Sept. 11 commission. For years before the
terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement officials, especially
those concerned with identity theft, argued that the states should have
more
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At 9:49 AM -0400 10/12/04, John Kelsey wrote:
Hmmm. I guess I don't see why this story supports that argument all
that well.
More like the straw that broke the camel's back, admittedly.
A long time ago I came to the conclusion that the closer we
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/surveillance/2004-10-10-privacy_x.htm
USA Today
Airline ID requirement faces legal challenge
By Richard Willing, USA TODAY
At a time when Americans have come to expect tight security for air travel,
it might seem to be an odd question: Does requiring airline
Actually, this story is quite the media bellweather. This one treats the
case purely as Gilmore wants to fly anonymously, while even some other
mainline media are reporting it as, Gilmore is questioning the legality of
hidden laws.
I guess USA Today still feels it has an audience worth
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