Re: US: Democracy or Republic?

2000-12-11 Thread Tim May

At 1:32 AM -0500 12/11/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 05:12:23PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote:
  Quite.  And the specter of the Florida legislature selecting a new set of
  electors are providing one of the best civics educations citizens young and
  old have had this century.  Its really quite healthy to have the myth of
  democracy we were all taught in grade school laid bare by the reality of a
  conservative and plain reading of the Constitution by some of the best and
  brightest.

Heh. For every Democrat (and perhaps some Republicans) who goes on TV
and proudly proclaims this perpetual election as a good thing because
it buttresses our civics knowledge, I want to ask: Why don't we
encourage the president, say, to commit a felony? The subsequent
prosecution and conviction would be fascinating to observe and would
*really* educate America's children.

Yes, the treatment Bill received after raping Juanita Brodderick was 
indeed instructive.

As was the punishment he received for lying under oath, suborning 
perjury, tampering with evidence, and (very probably) having 
witnesses in his scandals killed.

(While not _all_ of the several dozen people on the Bill Hit List 
were victims of foul play, I expect many were. And about 10 standard 
deviations' worth of deaths as compared to the expected number around 
other men of similar age


--Tim May
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Re: US: Democracy or Republic?

2000-12-10 Thread petro

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:

  From: "Kent Snyder-The Liberty Committee" 
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  THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.  IT IS A REPUBLIC.  THE ELECTORAL

A republic is a form of democracy, a representative one.

No, it isn't.
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Re: US: Democracy or Republic?

2000-12-10 Thread Steve Schear

At 03:26 AM 12/10/00 -0800, petro wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:

  From: "Kent Snyder-The Liberty Committee" 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.  IT IS A REPUBLIC.  THE ELECTORAL

A republic is a form of democracy, a representative one.

 No, it isn't.

Quite.  And the specter of the Florida legislature selecting a new set of 
electors are providing one of the best civics educations citizens young and 
old have had this century.  Its really quite healthy to have the myth of 
democracy we were all taught in grade school laid bare by the reality of a 
conservative and plain reading of the Constitution by some of the best and 
brightest.

steve