Freeh Leaving...

2001-05-01 Thread aluger
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- FBI Director Louis Freeh announced Tuesday that he will resign his post in June. http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/05/01/freeh.resigns.02/index.html Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com

Re: Technological Solution

2001-05-01 Thread David Honig
At 06:32 PM 4/28/01 -0700, Tim May wrote: People don't need to spend several months wading through cryptography textbooks to come up to a level that is sufficient to understand the real issues.) --Tim May In fact, crypto textbooks will teach you about the tensile strength of steel, but not

RE: layered deception

2001-05-01 Thread Aimee Farr
Honig: Is it in fact a crime of fraud to advertise that you don't keep logs when in fact you do? Seems deceptive... I look for the continued development of tortious evidentiary spoliation in a digital context, which includes negative legal presumptions, sanctions up to default

Re: layered deception

2001-05-01 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, May 1, 2001, at 06:05 PM, Aimee Farr wrote: Honig: Is it in fact a crime of fraud to advertise that you don't keep logs when in fact you do? Seems deceptive... A profound new insight. We still await some real insights from a real graduate student (!), beyond her saying that

RE: BSE

2001-05-01 Thread David Honig
The idealism that I refer to is the concept that human beings can create something substantially better than what exists. This is the fundamental driving force of all human endeavor incl. tech., ag., etc. Make your kids' situation better than yours. Everything follows.

RE: layered deception

2001-05-01 Thread David Honig
At 12:13 AM 4/30/01 -0400, Phillip H. Zakas wrote: i agree...unless you're specifically directed to do so, maintaining log files is completely optional. Is it in fact a crime of fraud to advertise that you don't keep logs when in fact you do?

Re: The issue of logs is a 1A issue, not a matter of funding

2001-05-01 Thread aluger
At Tue, 1 May 2001 18:14:38 -0700, Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real argument is that commanding a person to keep records of whom he communicates with (which is what a log of messages is all about) is a slam dunk violation of the First Amendment. It is no more acceptable than an order

Re: The issue of logs is a 1A issue, not a matter of funding

2001-05-01 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, May 1, 2001, at 07:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Tue, 1 May 2001 18:14:38 -0700, Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real argument is that commanding a person to keep records of whom he communicates with (which is what a log of messages is all about) is a slam dunk

RE: layered deception

2001-05-01 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 1 May 2001, David Honig wrote: Is it in fact a crime of fraud to advertise that you don't keep logs when in fact you do? If someone winds up losing money (or suffering other damages) because of it, it is at least a tort. If you were planning some kind of money-making scam that hinged

Re: layered deception

2001-05-01 Thread Harmon Seaver
Has anyone given any though to how log files could be accepted as evidence in the first place? They're just text files, and exceedingly trivial to alter, forge, erase, whatever. They get edited all the time by hackers -- how can anyone, even the sysadmin, swear that they are true? We just

Re: layered deception

2001-05-01 Thread Jon Beets
One thing to also remember is that standard log files are nothing more than text files and can be faked fairly easily... Which would make it wide open for a defending attorney to argue against.. Jon - Original Message - From: Ray Dillinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: