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General: Parshas Yisro
Mordechai Cohen asked:
I have to admit I have not looked extensively for commentaries that address
this issue. Hopefully you can direct me toward someone who gives an answer.
Beside the implementation of judges and the qualifications of judges, Yisro
advised Moshe to appoint judges over 1000's, 100's, 50's, and 10's. Looking at
the ratios between these divisions you will see the following:
Moshe
> Ratio of 1:600
Judges over 1000's
> Ratio of 1:10
Judges over 100's
> Ratio of 1:2
Judges over 50's
> Ratio of 1:5
Judges over 10's
> Ratio of 1:10
Common people
These are approximate ratios based on 600,000 common people. In truth the
common people were 600,000 - 60,000 (Judges over 10's) - 12,000 (Judges over
50's) - 6,000 (Judges over 100's) - 600 (Judges over 1000's) = 521,400. In any
case, the ratios are not geometrically related, which I would expect. I even
tried to see if they were related using a logarithmic or exponential
relationship but they are not. Have you seen anyone who comments on this?
Sincerely,
Mort
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The Kollel replies:
To answer your second question first, bearing in mind that the judges
progressed in seniority, there is no reason why the numbers should be
geometrically related (what is wrong with a junior judge being in charge of ten
people and a senior one, fifty (five groups of ten?).
As for your first question, I think you are asking the question posed by both
the Da'as Zekeinim mi'Ba'alei Tosfos and the Chizkuni, who both give similar
answers. Let me translate the Chizkuni verbatim:
Seeing as the judges of Yisrael numbered 78,600, this will leave less than
600,000 people to be judged? One must therefore say that the judges were all
above the age of sixty, whereas the 600,000 were all between the ages of twenty
and sixty.
Alternatively, the judges were included in the numbers; i.e. the judge of a
thousand was one of the thousand (in which case, he was in effect, a judge of
999); the judge of a hundred was one of the hundred (judge of 99), and so on.
be'Virchas kol Tuv
Eliezer Chrysler
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