Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-13 Thread Joeri van Ruth
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:42:19PM +, Jamie Webb wrote: I would suggest darcs forget. -1 Darcs will not forget the file. It just won't track any further changes. In particular, 'forget' fails to indicate that the file will be removed from any /other/ repo to which the patch is

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-09 Thread Jamie Webb
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:53:02AM +0100, Joeri van Ruth wrote: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 10:30:17PM +0100, Albert Reiner wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:30:42 -0400]: As for darcs remove, it might be best to eliminate that command, or at least to hide it in the section that

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-04 Thread Albert Reiner
[Olivier Thauvin [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sat, 4 Feb 2006 02:21:49 +0100]: Notice rollback does not apply currently to your working copy, I sent patches about this and I am waiting feedback from devel list. So currently you have to: darcs rollback darcs revert to fully apply the change. But

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-04 Thread Albert Reiner
[Nigel Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sat, 4 Feb 2006 09:10:07 +1100]: Hmmm, maybe it should be renamed unadd? Actually I'm only half joking here, as it would remove any confusion of does darcs remove == rm? Actually, I also thought that unadd would have been a better name. In general, however,

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-03 Thread zooko
As for darcs remove, it might be best to eliminate that command, or at least to hide it in the section that we reserve for commands that are unnecessary and that sometimes confuse newcomers. Please don't eliminate! Not only would that break backward compatibility, it is also a very

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-03 Thread zooko
If you want all your commands in 2 characters like *nix then use the 'alias' command and make you own. Thats what its for. Consistency is a key item in user understanding and usability. That reminds me, that in fact darcs commands are much shorter for me: MAIM yumyum:~$ type dw dw is a

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-03 Thread Nigel Rowe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 February 2006 01:38, Olivier Thauvin wrote: Le Vendredi 03 Février 2006 15:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : As for darcs remove, it might be best to eliminate that command, or at least to hide it in the section that we reserve

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-03 Thread John Meacham
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 10:27:21AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry, I'm sure that darcs remove will live a long time, if only because of backwards compatibility. Could you please tell us what you use it for? Why don't you just delete the file in question instead? I use it because

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-03 Thread John Meacham
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 09:10:07AM +1100, Nigel Rowe wrote: Hmmm, maybe it should be renamed unadd? Actually I'm only half joking here, as it would remove any confusion of does darcs remove == rm? actually, I sort of like this. it would have saved me some trouble when I was first starting

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-03 Thread Richard A. Smith
John Meacham wrote: I use it because I saw it existed so assumed it was the proper way to delete files. I only learned you could just delete them when I accidentally used 'mv' instead of 'darcs mv' and it recorded the patch as deteting the original file. Hmmm. I was unaware of this as well.

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-02 Thread zooko
I tripped over this many times too -- perhaps we should just also allow move in parallel with mv. Since several people have this issue, then perhaps this means that the current motivation for the name of mv isn't an important one. Perhaps it is okay if the darcs equivalent of unix mv is

[darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-02 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2006-02-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it is okay if the darcs equivalent of unix mv is spelled move. No, it isn't. As for darcs remove, it might be best to eliminate that command, If consistency is wanted, rather rename 'remove' to 'rm' than 'mv' to 'move'. --

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-02 Thread zooko
Perhaps it is okay if the darcs equivalent of unix mv is spelled move. No, it isn't. Why? Would users be confused because they expect darcs to have unix-style command names and when they try darcs mv it doesn't work? I rather doubt it -- darcs mv is the only unix-style command!

[darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-02 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2006-02-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that the name darcs mv is an exception from the normal darcs command-name style So what? I like and want unix-style commands where applicable. Do I have to wrap this part of darcs as well as I already have to wrap dates to

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 22:43 schrieb Tuomo Valkonen: On 2006-02-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that the name darcs mv is an exception from the normal darcs command-name style So what? I like and want unix-style commands where applicable. But maybe other

[darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-02 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2006-02-02, Wolfgang Jeltsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what? I like and want unix-style commands where applicable. But maybe other people have a different taste. Although I nearly always work with UNIX-style systems, I don't think that it's a good idea to have UNIX-like darcs

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-02 Thread Richard A. Smith
Tuomo Valkonen wrote: So what? That doesn't change that unix-like commands are an excellent choice. 'darcs mo' is very unintuitive, and 'darcs move' is much longer than 'darcs mv'. Much longer? A whopping _2_ characters! I touch type and my fingers type what I think virutally

[darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-02 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2006-02-03, Richard A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much longer? A whopping _2_ characters! It's a lot when one's used to typing 'mv'. And it's counterintuitive to use a completely different command in a darcs repository than outside on. I touch type and my fingers type what I think

Re: [darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-02 Thread Richard A. Smith
Tuomo Valkonen wrote: It's a lot when one's used to typing 'mv'. And it's counterintuitive to use a completely different command in a darcs repository than outside on. That actually does has a bit of merit. But it its canceled by the other platform where it's not completely different.

[darcs-users] Re: most of the commands do not use dash to separatewords

2006-02-02 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2006-02-03, Richard A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I don't 'mv' an object on my desk I 'move' it. You don't go and 'cp' something on the copier. Well, I 'siirrän' (1st person singular form of the verb 'siirtää' that has the singular imperative form 'siirrä' suitable for commands)