Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-05-18 Thread Gautam John
Something I read today: http://www.medianama.com/2014/05/223-modak-marketing-election-voter-india/ -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-05-18 Thread Snehashish Ghosh
Dear Gautam, Thank you. This is very interesting. I wrote a piece on this issue right after the failed Google-ECI deal in February http://goo.gl/e9Xea0 The UK approach seems to be a good one. In UK there are two voter lists - full list and edited list. You can choose to be removed from the edited

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-14 Thread Raphael Susewind
As a follow-up to this discussion: electoralsearch.in began to implement rate limiting and selective IP blocking yesterday. Sad as this is for my own research purposes, I welcome the step from a privacy point of view... Raphael On 11.04.2014 10:56, Chandrashekhar Raman wrote: Raphael, To

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Raphael Susewind
Hi Devdatta and Avinash, yes, I, too, am frankly surprised at the ease with which one can access sensitive data in bulk. Not only PDF rolls and voter details, but also things such as land records, BPL lists, and much more - I think we are in an exciting as well as dangerous phase of fairly

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Gautam John
Leaving aside my earlier comment as perhaps tongue in cheek, the electoral rolls are *meant* to be public. The Registration of Electors Rules, 1960 makes that clear. However, your larger point is well made. Maybe what needs to be done is to *de-centralise* the storage? That fulfils the

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Chandrashekhar Raman
Raphael, you raise very pertinent issues. We as a community love open data and in this country there is a lot that can be done to free all kinds of data so that it can be made use of in a good way (election data in an aggregated form is one example). But at the same time there are certain kinds

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Avinash Celestine
Hi Gautam I dont think the issue is with having the electoral roll available publicly per se. personally, i think its better that the rolls are available in the open, as compared with the alternative, where it is confidential, thus leaving it open to other types of abuses. But i do think that

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Raphael Susewind
Chandrashekhar, just on the specific issues of targeting communities, which I have thought about a great deal (my first book was on post-2002 Gujarat), my tentative conclusion is this: The fact that electoral rolls had been used in the past in riots before they were available online shows that

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Chandrashekhar Raman
Raphael, To clarify, i am not trying to make a case against availability of fine grained data, far from it i'm with you on this argument among others that are made spuriously to restrict access. I might have stretched the point but then again - killing is just one extreme form of discrimination -

[datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-10 Thread Devdatta Tengshe
Hi, I found this interesting article by a guy who downloaded and processed the Voter list of Delhi: https://medium.com/p/1aff55526881 I found this via a discussion on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/22pn8u/i_wrote_a_few_simple_python_scripts_to_retrieve/ I'll like to quote

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-10 Thread Gautam John
Not sure this is a flaw. Maybe it's a feature? :D -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email