Re: [datameet] List of GoI websites for Website Accessibility PIL @ MHC

2019-03-25 Thread Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India) 
Thanks for this info & offer Konark!

A fresh run would be very useful at this juncture as we anticipate a major
shakeup on the accessibility front with compliance looming.

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*VAISHNAVI JAYAKUMAR*
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 15:38, konark modi  wrote:

> Hi Vaishnavi,
>
> I did some similar collection of names, you can access the data at:
> https://github.com/konarkmodi/DigitalIndia - primarily for the purpose of
> doing analysis about adoption of security practices for government sites.
> Feel free to use the data if you find it relevant.
>
> It was done in 2017, I can try and run the jobs again to collect a more
> recent list.
>
> -Konark
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:54 AM Vaishnavi Jayakumar <
> jayakumar.vaishn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> At a PIL compliance hearing
>> , a
>> list was requested by Madras High Court judges. We have provided 105 as
>> lawyer had requested in the hope that through this engagement, we can push
>> through more sustainable change.
>>
>> I remember Sumandro and Srinivas Kodali working on collating the Govt
>> websites. Could I access that please? What I've attempted primarily from
>> goidirectory.nic.in is 11000+, with root domains at ~7k.
>>
>> Relevant extracts from the correspondence with lawyer are pasted below.
>> Please note the date for compliance with India's disability act is fast
>> approaching - 14th June 2019.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar 
>> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 15:03
>> Subject: Re: Re website accessibility
>>
>> Here are 105 websites that would be a good mix to get started. Please
>> note that root domains have been provided, therefore both 'prefixes and
>> suffixes'
>> would
>> need to be made accessible as per GIGW 2nd edition of 2018
>> 
>> .
>>
>> These are 3 entries where a root domain alone has not been provided -
>> that is because there are key services / apps on the URL linked which would
>> also need to be accessified :
>>
>>1. digitalindia.gov.in/di-initiatives
>>2. meity.gov.in/content/important-links
>>3. mohua.gov.in/cms/schemes-or-programmes.php
>>
>> Two other entries have been highlighted.
>>
>>1. MyGov.in
>>2. PIB.gov.in
>>
>> MyGov.in and PIB.gov.in both need to be used as channels by the
>> remaining 1+ websites
>> 
>> as it is humanly impossible to keep track of the various notices and public
>> consultations issued by different departments and ministries. C*onsultation
>> interfaces are best managed via mygov.in  ; and any type
>> of notice would benefit from media exposure and ensuing free publicity*.
>> As these 2 websites will be made compliant in the first tranche, it should
>> ensure that key information is being transmitted accessibly.
>>
>> *BACKGROUND TO PROBLEM*
>>
>> Currently the inaccessibility of websites and apps is a concern which is
>> growing day by day. Under the new law, the websites and apps have to be
>> made accessible by June 14, 2019. And the responsibility of making it sure
>> is upon the regulator / ministry.
>>
>> *VERIFIED IDENTITY & STANDARDISED OFFICIAL NAMING CONVENTIONS *
>>
>> There are over 1 Govt websites in India, whether centre or state - no
>> list is available with government or any other body. Not all websites are
>> easily identifiable or verifiable as government websites because they are
>> not on the .gov.in domain or even on the .nic.in domain. It is therefore
>> difficult to distinguish between a phishing fake site and a government
>> site. This is also the case with social media identities of government
>> bodies where despite availability of official verification by service
>> providers like Facebook and Twitter,  it is difficult to distinguish
>> between an actual government entity and a fake account whether on social
>> media or app store.
>>
>> Using a Gmail or a personal email id is growing - official email id
>>  could always be accessed with NIC's equivalent
>>  of a convenient, quick office suite. Earlier
>> versions of websites cam be made part of the archives
>> . Additionally, if 3rd party software
>> needs to be used, preference should be given to Indian government
>> equivalents or FOSS - free open source software / formats / fonts. (
>> Bhuvan  / OpenStreetMap instead of Google
>> Maps), EPUB instead of PDFs (which cannot render regional fonts correctly);
>> CDAC's Sakal Bharathi font /any OpenType Unicode
>>

Re: [datameet] List of GoI websites for Website Accessibility PIL @ MHC

2019-03-25 Thread konark modi 
Hi Vaishnavi,

I did some similar collection of names, you can access the data at:
https://github.com/konarkmodi/DigitalIndia - primarily for the purpose of
doing analysis about adoption of security practices for government sites.
Feel free to use the data if you find it relevant.

It was done in 2017, I can try and run the jobs again to collect a more
recent list.

-Konark

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:54 AM Vaishnavi Jayakumar <
jayakumar.vaishn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> At a PIL compliance hearing
> , a
> list was requested by Madras High Court judges. We have provided 105 as
> lawyer had requested in the hope that through this engagement, we can push
> through more sustainable change.
>
> I remember Sumandro and Srinivas Kodali working on collating the Govt
> websites. Could I access that please? What I've attempted primarily from
> goidirectory.nic.in is 11000+, with root domains at ~7k.
>
> Relevant extracts from the correspondence with lawyer are pasted below.
> Please note the date for compliance with India's disability act is fast
> approaching - 14th June 2019.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar 
> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 15:03
> Subject: Re: Re website accessibility
>
> Here are 105 websites that would be a good mix to get started. Please note
> that root domains have been provided, therefore both 'prefixes and
> suffixes'
> would
> need to be made accessible as per GIGW 2nd edition of 2018
> 
> .
>
> These are 3 entries where a root domain alone has not been provided - that
> is because there are key services / apps on the URL linked which would also
> need to be accessified :
>
>1. digitalindia.gov.in/di-initiatives
>2. meity.gov.in/content/important-links
>3. mohua.gov.in/cms/schemes-or-programmes.php
>
> Two other entries have been highlighted.
>
>1. MyGov.in
>2. PIB.gov.in
>
> MyGov.in and PIB.gov.in both need to be used as channels by the remaining 
> 1+
> websites
> 
> as it is humanly impossible to keep track of the various notices and public
> consultations issued by different departments and ministries. C*onsultation
> interfaces are best managed via mygov.in  ; and any type
> of notice would benefit from media exposure and ensuing free publicity*.
> As these 2 websites will be made compliant in the first tranche, it should
> ensure that key information is being transmitted accessibly.
>
> *BACKGROUND TO PROBLEM*
>
> Currently the inaccessibility of websites and apps is a concern which is
> growing day by day. Under the new law, the websites and apps have to be
> made accessible by June 14, 2019. And the responsibility of making it sure
> is upon the regulator / ministry.
>
> *VERIFIED IDENTITY & STANDARDISED OFFICIAL NAMING CONVENTIONS *
>
> There are over 1 Govt websites in India, whether centre or state - no
> list is available with government or any other body. Not all websites are
> easily identifiable or verifiable as government websites because they are
> not on the .gov.in domain or even on the .nic.in domain. It is therefore
> difficult to distinguish between a phishing fake site and a government
> site. This is also the case with social media identities of government
> bodies where despite availability of official verification by service
> providers like Facebook and Twitter,  it is difficult to distinguish
> between an actual government entity and a fake account whether on social
> media or app store.
>
> Using a Gmail or a personal email id is growing - official email id
>  could always be accessed with NIC's equivalent
>  of a convenient, quick office suite. Earlier
> versions of websites cam be made part of the archives
> . Additionally, if 3rd party software
> needs to be used, preference should be given to Indian government
> equivalents or FOSS - free open source software / formats / fonts. (Bhuvan
>  / OpenStreetMap instead of Google Maps),
> EPUB instead of PDFs (which cannot render regional fonts correctly); CDAC's
> Sakal Bharathi font /any OpenType Unicode
> 
> font  vs Vanavil commercial proprietary font
> .
>
> *ACCESSIBILITY IS DYNAMIC, CERTIFICATION IS STATIC*
>
> This certification exercise
>  could go
> on endlessly because accessibility is not a one off. A day after receiving
> certification a website update could result in a