Re: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help

2005-07-09 Thread Steve Sapovits
Jared Still wrote: I use a (Perl) password server for this. Passwords are stored encrypted in a configuration file. Clients authenticate with the server, and receive a requested password (encrypted) across the network, if the client is entitled. The user authentication is rudimentary, but it

Re: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help

2005-07-09 Thread Jonathan Leffler
Still late to the party - another one bullet point item... On 7/4/05, Darren Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. All host parameters should be named (like :foo) rather than positional (like ?), meeting with the SQL:2003 standard. The named format is a lot easier to use and flexible, making

Re: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help

2005-07-09 Thread Darren Duncan
At 12:35 AM -0700 7/9/05, Jonathan Leffler wrote: I dunno which DBMS support prepare without a database connection, but I would expect all the mainstream databases to require a database connection. IBM DB2 does; IBM Informix Dynamic Server (IDS) does; someone else commented on this and said

Re: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help

2005-07-09 Thread Darren Duncan
At 1:03 AM -0700 7/9/05, Jonathan Leffler wrote: Can you explain which parts of the SQL:2003 mandate this notation? I've had a moderately good poke around my copy of ISO/IEC 9075-2:2003 (SQL/Foundation) and cannot find this. I'd like a few section numbers listed which describe this. The

Re: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help

2005-07-09 Thread Darren Duncan
At 1:22 AM -0700 7/9/05, Jonathan Leffler wrote: On 7/4/05, Darren Duncan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5. All details used to construct a connection handle should be completely decomposed rather than shoved into an ungainly data source. Examples of what should be distinct

Re: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help

2005-07-09 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Jonathan Leffler wrote: I dunno which DBMS support prepare without a database connection, but I would expect all the mainstream databases to require a database connection. +1 I'm also far from convinced that there's any significant benefit in separating the 'create a database handle' from

Re: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help

2005-07-09 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Jonathan Leffler wrote: Can you explain which parts of the SQL:2003 mandate this notation? I've had a moderately good poke around my copy of ISO/IEC 9075-2:2003 (SQL/Foundation) and cannot find this. I'd like a few section numbers listed which describe this. I second that one too. Besides,

Re: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help

2005-07-09 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Jonathan Leffler wrote: Oh drat - not the DBI connection string discussion again! ;-)

RE: Installing DBD::File via CPAN

2005-07-09 Thread Paul Boutros
Excellent, that does it: thanks! Paul -Original Message- From: Jonathan Leffler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dbi-users Subject: Re: Installing DBD::File via CPAN Do you use 'UNINST=1' in the build options for

Re: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help

2005-07-09 Thread Darren Duncan
Jonathan, while you are well-meaning in your comments, you are mis-reading what I have said multiple times and are therefore making a straw man argument against it. Regarding this point: 5. All details used to construct a connection handle should be completely decomposed rather than shoved

Re: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help [DRAFT]

2005-07-09 Thread Ron Savage
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:08:33 -0700, Dean Arnold wrote: Hi Dean Just a comment: Or, it gives us the opportunity to coax people to upgrade their perl versions ;^). And of course, just cuz its CORE, doesn't I know we agree on some things, Dean, but this is a can of wormskis, as we say in