RE: 5/2/70

2011-12-14 Thread kevin
Yes, we don't have these limitations any more.

The records have been merged into one show with the four sets.

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From: owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu
[mailto:owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of John Oleynick
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:04 PM
To: Charlie Miller
Cc: Deadlists
Subject: Re: 5/2/70

On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Charlie Miller wrote:
 Why is 5/2/70 split up like 2 different shows?

This is my dim memory from about 15 (?) years ago when we were starting
deadlists.  When we were designing the text-based data format to store the
lists we decided to limit it to only 3 sets because that would accomodate
all shows.  Jim (and others?) felt that for 5/2/70 (and maybe a few other
'70 shows?) the NRPS set was an integral part of the Dead show, and should
be listed as such, not as a separate opener, making 5/2/70 a 4 set show.  I
think there was even a fair amount of discussion about whether or not the
NRPS set was part of the Dead show or not, some of it based on interpreting
comments made at the end of sets (Be right back with the New Riders or
something like that).  I don't remember why we didn't just add a 4th set.
Maybe it was to save people from not having to type it in for the thousands
of shows that didn't have it, or maybe it was to save a few precious
kilobytes in the days of 100 meg hard drives and 28kb modems. 
In any case, because 5/2/70 wouldn't fit in the 3 set format, Jim was the
caretaker for 1970 and split it up into 2 separate shows, with a comment
indicating that it was really one show not two.  Now that the data is stored
in a real database (I think), and we wouldn't have to sweat a few extra kb,
maybe we could add a 4th set and make 5/2/70 into one single show.

John




Re: 5/2/70

2011-10-20 Thread John Oleynick

On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Charlie Miller wrote:

Why is 5/2/70 split up like 2 different shows?


This is my dim memory from about 15 (?) years ago when we were starting 
deadlists.  When we were designing the text-based data format to store the 
lists we decided to limit it to only 3 sets because that would accomodate 
all shows.  Jim (and others?) felt that for 5/2/70 (and maybe a few 
other '70 shows?) the NRPS set was an integral part of the Dead show, and 
should be listed as such, not as a separate opener, making 5/2/70 a 4 set 
show.  I think there was even a fair amount of discussion about whether or 
not the NRPS set was part of the Dead show or not, some of it based on 
interpreting comments made at the end of sets (Be right back with the New 
Riders or something like that).  I don't remember why we didn't just add 
a 4th set.  Maybe it was to save people from not having to type it in for 
the thousands of shows that didn't have it, or maybe it was to save a few 
precious kilobytes in the days of 100 meg hard drives and 28kb modems. 
In any case, because 5/2/70 wouldn't fit in the 3 set format, Jim was the 
caretaker for 1970 and split it up into 2 separate shows, with a comment 
indicating that it was really one show not two.  Now that the data is 
stored in a real database (I think), and we wouldn't have to sweat a few 
extra kb, maybe we could add a 4th set and make 5/2/70 into one single 
show.


John