Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf17 bids - DebConf Committee

2016-01-27 Thread Moray Allan
On 2016-01-24 17:23, martin f krafft wrote: The wiki lists three purposes for this meeting: 1. Introductions from teams and their members. 2. Questions from teams about the process, and about what others suggest they try to do on any uncertain aspects or potential problems. 3.

Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Prices and deals for non-sponsored attendees

2015-01-17 Thread Moray Allan
On 2015-01-17 22:05, David Bremner wrote: Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com writes: My proposal is to have 5 categories: * Corporate: lodging+food (charged by the hostel per day of stay) + EUR 400 * Professional: lodging+food (charged by the hostel per day of stay) + EUR 150 *

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-23 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-12-19 22:43, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Right, there have been many times we have asked people to be aware. As you say, we had no major issues in the locations you listed. However, there was also a large degree of self-selection of attendees for some of them, with some people who attended

[Debconf-team] DebConf subteams list

2014-10-11 Thread Moray Allan
During the workgroup sessions at DebConf, among other points we agreed that we would form clearer subteams for related tasks, and clarify subteam responsibilities. These subteams would group together related tasks, while avoiding overlapping roles between subteams to simplify decision-making

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf orga/governance sessions at DC14

2014-08-18 Thread Moray Allan
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 08:25:41PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: The location of these sessions will be announced short-term, but I wanted to let you know the times at this point already, so that you can mark your calendars accordingly: Martin, When an event proposal is rejected by the talks

Re: [Debconf-team] Budget woes

2014-08-18 Thread Moray Allan
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 08:33:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: - Water bottles. Sturdy, reusable aluminum water bottles - branded with the Debian logo, of course! - would be a nice perk to send people home with, that would be useful during the conference too. (And they would

Re: [Debconf-team] Request for Videoteam Budget increase

2014-08-09 Thread Moray Allan
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 04:18:14PM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: The DebConf Videoteam requests a budget increase for DebConf 14. Shipping cost Chicago - Portland of Carl Karsten's gear:$2000 Rental of screens, projectors and PA speakers for 3 rooms: $900 Purchase of

Re: [Debconf-team] Request to Adjust Budget for Social Events

2014-06-18 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-06-18 00:43, Patty Langasek wrote: Bottom line, I'd like to transfer another $1500 to the conference dinner budget, bringing the conference dinner budget from $9900 to $11400 USD. I request the funds to come from the daytrip budget excess, which would take that down to $3474 USD. In

Re: [Debconf-team] A proposal about scheduling for DC14

2014-06-05 Thread Moray Allan
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 12:56:53PM +, Clint Adams wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 07:40:12AM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote: Are you both saying we should go with Steve's original suggestion: http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20131001.175026.0a50b91b.en.html I would probably

Re: [Debconf-team] Request to Adjust Budget for Social Events

2014-05-04 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-05-04 22:21, Steve Langasek wrote: And the budget prudently includes a $3k allowance for unforeseen expenses. Is there something else you think we should be doing to ensure that we are *not* in the situation of having to cancel the dinner and lose our deposit? Have there been

Re: [Debconf-team] Request to Adjust Budget for Social Events

2014-05-03 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-05-02 20:19, Steve Langasek wrote: Summary: the overall budget hasn't changed, we're simply proposing to move money from one line item to another within the social events budget. Note that, as of today, we have enough committed sponsorship to fund the conference dinner even at the

Re: [Debconf-team] thank you and thanks for all the fish

2014-04-28 Thread Moray Allan
I would like to thank Holger and Gunnar for the all the work they have done for DebConf over the last years. Both of them have put a huge amount of their time and energy into DebConf over a long period, and helped it grow and become more useful to Debian and for free software more generally. I

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf 15 Legal Entity

2014-04-14 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-04-13 20:10, Margarita Manterola wrote: The trickiest part of creating the association is to have a purpose that will be accepted as non-profit by the tax authorities. If we do not attain non-profit status, it would mean that we would need to pay corporate and sales taxes (~ 30 %), and

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf 15 Legal Entity

2014-04-14 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-04-14 21:24, Richard Hartmann wrote: For completeness sake, registering a Limited in Germany (non-profit or for-profit) requires you to pony up at least 25.000 € in advance. This is why insurance is cheaper. For completeness: presumably one could register a limited company in a more

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-04-02 11:19, Richard Hartmann wrote: Forcing people to switch buses every time would increase intermingling even more. I think you can probably achieve this well enough simply by not forcing people to take the same bus as they started on. (Which also saves time and stress, compared

Re: [Debconf-team] Updated budget for DC14

2014-04-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-04-02 06:06, martin f krafft wrote: Or find ways to integrate the conference dinner with the day trip, such that at the end of an outside day, you get to eat outside food too. Yes, though some attendees have liked having the dinner/whatever other social event on a separate day.

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-04-02 06:23, martin f krafft wrote: Rather, I think we must ensure an inclusive programme, and a default expectation that everyone joins — and assume/communicate that in everything we do. Indeed. The data we *do* have is from a survey in 2011,

Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 date selection

2014-04-01 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-03-31 22:43, Bdale Garbee wrote: The answer from me is the same in either case. Mid-August is fine, late Aug into Sept is a big problem for many from the US. In Scotland, schools start again in mid- to late August. That might make either of the proposals hard for parents, but the

Re: [Debconf-team] Updated budget for DC14

2014-04-01 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-03-30 00:02, Steve Langasek wrote: This is not true. The DC13 earmark at SPI contain all surplusses from previous DebConfs including Debian contributions which have not been paid back to Debian. Why is that, if everyone is agreed that surplusses are not rolled over from year to

Re: [Debconf-team] Updated budget for DC14

2014-03-28 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-03-27 19:52, Steve Langasek wrote: And to any members of the DC15 team who may be reading this with alarm: note that our max budget is for 143 sponsored attendees, and a $45k travel budget. The budget is set with high margins, to try to ensure we don't have to turn anyone away who

[Debconf-team] Reminder: DebConf15 venue decision meeting

2014-03-05 Thread Moray Allan
From: Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org To: debconf-team@lists.debconf.org Copy: debian-proj...@lists.debian.org Once again we are nearing the end of the DebConf bid process, https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Bid_process Yesterday we held the bid status meeting, with questions to and from the three

[Debconf-team] DebConf15 venue decision meeting

2014-02-21 Thread Moray Allan
Once again we are nearing the end of the DebConf bid process, https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Bid_process Yesterday we held the bid status meeting, with questions to and from the three active bid teams: On 2014-02-14 10:23, Holger Levsen wrote: *

[Debconf-team] For those who care about DebConf (was Re: DebConf15 venue decision meeting)

2014-02-21 Thread Moray Allan
It is fairly likely that we will have space for (late) new appointments to the DebConf Committee. The current (possibly stale) membership list is at: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf_Committee If you are interested in joining yourself, or would like to propose someone, please reply

[Debconf-team] Call for DebConf volunteers and DebConf15/16 bids

2013-11-22 Thread Moray Allan
Hi, 1. If you are interested in putting forward a bid to host DebConf15 in 2015, please tell us about it on the DebConf team mailing list, debconf-team@lists.debconf.org, then read the information at https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15 and prepare bid materials there by the end of this

Re: [Debconf-team] Proposal for sponsorship levels (and registration fees) for DC14

2013-10-24 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-10-24 00:43, Brian Gupta wrote: Supporter 2000 USD - Logo on sponsor web page ^^ This should presumably read supporter web page. The intention has previously been that these aren't formally included as sponsors -- with no minimum, it's a different option rather than

[Debconf-team] DebConf13 staff t-shirts

2013-08-13 Thread Moray Allan
If you are not present at DebConf13, but worked to help make it happen, please arrange with someone who is present to collect a staff t-shirt for you. -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org

Re: [Debconf-team] Day trip polling

2013-07-24 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-07-24 00:20, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Anyway, I cannot come up with a way to set up a simplish online poll and capture the sentiment. That's one thing. ‣ If the majority of the respondents answered [YES], rafw and OdyX will proceed as planned. If not, we shall default to Further

Re: [Debconf-team] Day trip decision

2013-07-22 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-07-22 08:53, Holger Levsen wrote: On Sonntag, 21. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote: As you can see the budget for that day is close to CHF 28'000 which is CHF 111 per person (252 attendees). wow :-/ Thats a lot of money for a day out in the green. It is indeed an amazing amount

Re: [Debconf-team] Day trip decision

2013-07-22 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-07-21 17:54, Raphaël Walther wrote: I am writting regarding the Day Trip plan. The current plan is to do the conference dinner on the boat on the way back from the day trip! https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/DayTrip Thanks for working on this. I already posted at my amazement

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-07-08 21:20, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: IMO the way to go is that before tomorrows meeting we need to find enough persons willing to organize the dishwashing by volunteers and who are commited enough that in case of failure they are ready to do the unstaffed shifts themselves. I'd

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 T-shirts initial design

2013-07-04 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-07-04 11:17, Axel Beckert wrote: On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 10:51:23AM +0100, Moray Allan wrote: Although we haven't done it consistently, it's possible sponsors *would* prefer the shirt to specify Debian somewhere on it -- some years we had that as a heading to the sponsor logos. Perhaps

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 T-shirts initial design

2013-07-03 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-07-03 07:54, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: We're not pushing the word Vaumarcus or Switzerland anywhere (as in past years), are we fine with that? I don't think that's a strict requirement. We also usually put the year with that. Although we haven't done it consistently, it's

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 T-shirts initial design

2013-07-03 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-07-03 16:24, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: last year t-shirt = email from moray (19.6.2012) Attendee Size Order XS10 S 30 M 65 L 80 (including ones for sponsors) XL40 XXL 25 Similar information for DebConf11 is in

Re: [Debconf-team] 2013-06-26 face-to-face meeting minutes

2013-07-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-07-01 20:33, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Hi all again, * Cleaning and dish-washing proposal https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Meetings/20130626#Cleaning_and_dishwashing Proposal to the debconf-team: DebConf local team members take the lead to find volunteers to handle the

Re: [Debconf-team] 2013-06-26 face-to-face meeting minutes

2013-07-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-07-01 20:33, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: This has now happened (sorry for the delay in sending minutes), here are the minutes: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Meetings/20130626#Minutes Design: OdyX to chase leogg or do a design himself. Deadline is July 15th We

Re: [Debconf-team] Reusable cups for DebConf13

2013-07-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-06-26 17:40, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Nobody had fundamental opposition against the idea of producing reusable plastic cups for DebConf so far. And we don't really have an alternative because Le Camp does not want use to use glasses or disposable plastic cups. Do we also need to provide

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf 13 room planning (talks, hacklabs, bar, ...)

2013-07-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-06-26 09:35, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: but I could think an hackbar (hacklab together with bar) will be nice (in the morning and early afternoon it will be more as hacklab + coffee), than along the days, if one want more quiet environment should move out. The final best room utilisation

Re: [Debconf-team] T-Shirts printing in Mexico

2013-06-12 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-06-11 19:39, Philipp Hug wrote: Id suggest we order the T-Shirts in Mexico. We should have some news on Bosnian printers in another few days -- since we're not sending the order yet, I suggest we don't need to decide firmly on Mexico yet. (I would be happy for them to be done in

Re: [Debconf-team] debconf bursaries procedures 2013

2013-06-08 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-06-08 20:15, David Bremner wrote: - Each member of the bursaries (herb) team will examine the applications and make a list of any that they think should (perhaps) not be sponsored. We will then have an IRC meeting to reach concensus on these cases. Personally I think it would be

[Debconf-team] Accommodation numbers/upgrades/communal accommodation

2013-05-19 Thread Moray Allan
We are now (by tomorrow) at the end of the period for applying for sponsorship, so the next set of decisions about room utilisation etc. should be made soon. How many people have registered for what room categories currently, and how does that compare to the available rooms? How many

Re: [Debconf-team] Accommodation numbers/upgrades/communal accommodation

2013-05-19 Thread Moray Allan
While I remember, on a related note: It would be very nice if someone could inspect the data at http://munin.debconf.org/archive/ and see how the final numbers of arrived attendees http://munin.debconf.org/archive/dc12/skinner.debconf.org-penta_conferences_arrived.html compare to the number of

[Debconf-team] Cleaning

2013-05-13 Thread Moray Allan
While budget-related topics are being mentioned: Do we have a real quotation, and preferably contract, for cleaning of the bathrooms, washing of dishes, etc. yet? -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org

Re: [Debconf-team] Travel sponsorship

2013-05-12 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-05-12 21:00, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: The 25k are about 40% more than we had for DC12. I don't know how much we spent in the years before. Looking at past reports where I can spot the number quickly: DC8 $40k USD ~= 38k CHF (at current rates) DC11 $35k EUR ~= 44k CHF (at current

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-11 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-05-07 22:38, Gunnar Wolf wrote: tiago_: h01ger, we from team were kind of accused of not being clear about money allocation for travel sponsorship last year, so I've been thinking that the team should take care of procedures, but rating should be done by

[Debconf-team] Travel sponsorship

2013-05-11 Thread Moray Allan
It has been pointed out on IRC that for several years we have intended to push travel sponsorship processing earlier, and that it is possible we can actually do this somewhat for DebConf13. How much money is currently available that could be assigned to travel sponsorship? (We don't need to

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 open to the public?

2013-05-11 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-05-09 20:13, Daniel Pocock wrote: To make it clear, `Free' only applies (and should be emphasized) to the content of the conference. For things like accommodation and food it is probably sufficient to tell people that those things can't be guaranteed if they fail to register and

[Debconf-team] Concentrating on DebConf14

2013-04-25 Thread Moray Allan
Hi, I just wanted to say that I plan to start concentrating my DebConf work on DebConf14 from now. This is for three reasons: - as I have some other Debian projects to push forward, so need to spend less time on DebConf work for now - so that we can avoid the situation from last year

[Debconf-team] DebConf14 venue decision

2013-04-05 Thread Moray Allan
Today the DebConf team held the DebConf14 venue decision meeting, following our standard process https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Bid_process A decision was reached that DebConf14 will take place in Portland, USA. Thank you to the USA and Venezuelan bid teams for their work, and to everyone who

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 venue decision

2013-04-05 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-04-05 12:17, Moray Allan wrote: Today the DebConf team held the DebConf14 venue decision meeting, following our standard process And here are the meeting logs: Minutes: http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2013/debconf-team.2013-04-05-17.00.html Minutes (text): http

[Debconf-team] DC14 decision meeting, Friday 2013-04-05 *17* UTC

2013-04-04 Thread Moray Allan
(since 2012) Guido Trotter (since 2012) Gunnar Wolf (since 2011, DebConf Chair) Holger Levsen (since 2011, DebConf Chair) Margarita Manterola (since 2011) Martín Ferrari (since 2013) Moray Allan (since 2011, DebConf Chair) Tiago Vaz (since 2013) -- Moray

[Debconf-team] DC12 costs

2013-04-01 Thread Moray Allan
Can anyone confirm - the price we paid for food per person per day and - the price we paid for accommodation per person per day ? (Maybe also the total amount we spent? budget.tex suggests 101,100 USD for this.) This is to complete https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PriceComparison Thanks, --

Re: [Debconf-team] PayPal donations, and fees

2013-03-31 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-30 07:09, David Prévot wrote: Could we know the amount of money (percentage) that will be “donated“ to PayPal on behalf of the matching fund initiative. I mean, on top of the conversion fee: is it something like 3 % ? I try to avoid using Paypal myself for reasons unrelated to

Re: [Debconf-team] PayPal donations, and fees

2013-03-31 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-31 12:59, David Prévot wrote: You’re comparing two really different things. On one side, a for profit bank like company, on the other, a non for profit trusted organization. For fairness, I encourage you to compare the PayPal fees to those of a bank. That's exactly why I made the

[Debconf-team] Venezuelan bid

2013-03-22 Thread Moray Allan
It seems that the Venezuelan bid team missed the Bid Status Meeting due to timezone confusion. Since we didn't have a chance to ask you in the meeting, please could the bid team reply to say: - if you have questions about the bid process (see https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Bid_process) -

[Debconf-team] Bid status meeting

2013-03-22 Thread Moray Allan
We had the bid status meeting earlier, unfortunately with only one bid team present. But if you missed it and want to see the discussion relating to the USA bid, you can find the meeting log here: http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2013/debconf-team.2013-03-22-17.01.html

[Debconf-team] [DC14] Venue decision meeting

2013-03-22 Thread Moray Allan
This is a reminder to please fill in your availability for the DebConf14 venue decision meeting, if you hope to attend it. http://doodle.com/394h2my78ezv94bp Despite the poll name, everyone is invited to attend and participate in the meeting (though parts will follow a formal process rather

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf Committee meeting (for DC14): Friday March 22, 17:00UTC

2013-03-18 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-18 20:15, Gunnar Wolf wrote: I do feel that, given that we have slipped quite a bit on our schedule *and* that we have got acknowledgements from both teams *and* that questions have been actively raised on the lists for the last week at least (and a call for further questions is

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf Committee meeting (for DC14): Friday March 22, 17:00UTC

2013-03-18 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-18 20:25, Moray Allan wrote: In addition to that, there are a number of extra steps that need to be done before the decision meeting, including extra documents to be posted to the list by the bids. It doesn't (for example) seem fair to me to ask the bids at short notice to rush out

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf Committee meeting (for DC14): Friday March 22, 17:00UTC

2013-03-18 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-19 00:11, Steve Langasek wrote: For my edification, does extra documents refer to this?: For the decision meeting, bid teams prepare: A description of how their bid meets each of the points on the priority list. A description of the weak points in their own bids.

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf Committee meeting (for DC14): Friday March 22, 17:00UTC

2013-03-18 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-18 21:31, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Ok - So, we basically agree. My option was to have the meeting and, if everything was finalized enough, we could come out with a winner bid. If not (and that's the most probable outcome), the second meeting is still warranted. I really don't want to

Re: [Debconf-team] Call for volunteers to join DebConf Committee

2013-03-12 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-12 22:18, Gunnar Wolf wrote: I think I'm not disclosing any state secret by first stating that our confirmed recurring DebConf committee members are: • Bdale Garbee • Christian Perrier • Margarita Manterola • Guido Trotter • Ana Guerrero • Andrew McMillan Plus the DebConf Chairs,

[Debconf-team] Call for volunteers to join DebConf Committee

2013-03-07 Thread Moray Allan
Now that we need to make a venue decision for DebConf14, we are looking for a couple of new members for the DebConf Committee. Short-term responsibilities: Read through the DebConf14 bids before the decision meeting, ask questions about them on the mailing list, attend the meeting, be ready to

[Debconf-team] DebConf14 bids

2013-03-01 Thread Moray Allan
The deadline for DebConf14 bids passed yesterday. It appears that we have two bids: Puerto La Cruz, Venezuela https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/PuertoLaCruz Portland, USA https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Portland Please read through the pages from both bids, and ask questions

[Debconf-team] DC14 bids: bid teams

2013-03-01 Thread Moray Allan
Both bid teams give a long list of team members on their wiki pages. Do the main team members live in the proposed city? If not, how far away are they? Are there other bid team members who live closer and would deal with local arrangements? -- Moray

[Debconf-team] DC14 bids: money handling

2013-03-01 Thread Moray Allan
DC14 bid teams, How do you plan for money handling to work in your proposed location? For the USA, I assume the answer will be use SPI, but feel free to comment further. For Venezuela, the bid page says, Venezuela has a currency exchange control. It is illegal for people to exchange

Re: [Debconf-team] Accomodation pricing and categories

2013-02-26 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-02-26 00:05, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: I would prefer the following: Before the conference only pro and corp attendees can buy a better room. We were trying to separate those things. Perhaps your proposal could be restated as only attendees not applying for accommodation/food

Re: [Debconf-team] [RFR] Please check the DebConf12 final report

2013-02-14 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-02-13 23:34, Justin B Rye wrote: I don't have write access for svn, but here's a diff. Thanks! I've committed these changes. -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org

[Debconf-team] [RFR] Please check the DebConf12 final report

2013-02-13 Thread Moray Allan
We should push out a release of the DebConf12 final report as soon as possible, so if you have time then please proof-read some (or all!) sections this week. Normally for this document we intentionally leave people's different styles of English in the report, even when those styles are a bit

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf12 final report - Status and course of action

2013-02-04 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-02-04 12:42, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: What do we do here? The texts haven't been committed with a license attached and as far as I can see from the commit log, we haven't (yet) listed the pictures origins or licenses. I see two ways forward: a) make the whole report All rights

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf12 final report - Status and course of action

2013-01-31 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-31 18:48, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Here's the list of currently missing chapters together with the currently assigned persons according to [0]. I am willing to contact them in private if there's consensus upon this proposed course of action. They've been pinged before, but

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 accomodation/food/fees prices proposal

2013-01-31 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-31 22:48, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Two things might still be a bit problematic with my proposal: - I did not find a good complement to sleeping-bag. Le camp calls this nordique but as I found out this is a Swissism nobody else understands. Since not bringing sleeping bags is

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf12 final report - Status and course of action

2013-01-31 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-31 21:08, Victor Martinez wrote: About pictures: I forgot completely to upload what I have taken, I remember at least having two or more from talks I think... also I think Regina had a bunch of good pics but need to ask about and, I think in flickr [1] there are at least of debcamp,

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 accomodation/food/fees prices proposal

2013-01-30 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-30 09:38, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: In my view it's not any of these two. I see these category names as short- name explanation of what the price category actually means in terms of comfort. Imagine that you register to get a room at DebConf and you can pick a room but not all are

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 accomodation/food/fees prices proposal

2013-01-30 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-30 11:58, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le mercredi, 30 janvier 2013 12.34:11, Moray Allan a écrit : What is the perceived advantage in allocating a clever set of names like materials or colours over just naming the categories by phrases which describe the relevant blocks of rooms

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf 14 bid for Portland, OR, US

2013-01-29 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-27 21:20, Steve Langasek wrote: In response to Moray's prompting on d-d-a, I'm writing to confirm that we are interested in putting forth a bid to host DebConf14 in Portland, OR. Aha, it's good to hear that the bid is still going. I know the bid process for this year is generally

Re: [Debconf-team] Call for DebConf volunteers and DebConf14/15 bids

2013-01-25 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-25 10:46, Andreas Tille wrote: As in some previous years I'd volunteer in talks selection and scheduling. I'm glad to hear it -- I was hoping that was the case! Thanks, -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list

Re: [Debconf-team] hoteldruid testing

2013-01-25 Thread Moray Allan
It *appears* to me that the system is designed for hotels rather than hostels and so only deals with booking rooms, not individual beds in rooms -- am I missing something? (I may well be, as I found the UI admin somewhat difficult.) We need a system or process that deals with individual

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for Professional / Corporate attendance Fee

2013-01-24 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-23 21:24, Philipp Hug wrote: I prepared this a while ago, when I was working on the budget, but I didn't send it to the list yet. Thank you for working on this. These are the basic ideas: * Accomodation/Food are paid per night * When accomodation is booked also food must be booked

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for Professional / Corporate attendance Fee

2013-01-24 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-24 09:36, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: I don't like the category names, and I think we should not give names to that category. Nobody should be labeled according the hosting. For sponsors it is different, the category is a selling point and according category they are shown differently on

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for Professional / Corporate attendance Fee

2013-01-24 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-24 17:04, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: On 24.01.2013 17:47, Moray Allan wrote: Does it make sense to split food from accommodation, when Le Camp want food numbers to be approximately the same as accommodation ones, and when there aren't good other options nearby? The other sense

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for Professional / Corporate attendance Fee

2013-01-24 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-24 17:07, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: On 24.01.2013 17:59, Moray Allan wrote: On 2013-01-24 09:36, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: I think we should add also category for 2 beds, for the couples. Probably, though it's not 100% clear that couples should get higher priority on small rooms

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for Professional / Corporate attendance Fee

2013-01-24 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-24 17:29, Moray Allan wrote: But do we want to allow people to choose accommodation without food? It might be sensible to prevent that in the conference management system (and special case it if we find someone with a good reason for it). And remember the good point that attendees

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for Professional / Corporate attendance Fee

2013-01-24 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-24 18:05, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: I think doing the calculation as we are doing now is great to be sure we are doing the right thing. Then if people prefer to have a single conference participation fee, I'm sure we help there. We could imagine publicising various use cases (as

Re: [Debconf-team] I wish you a wonderful 2013 DebConf13! (oh, and DebConf14 too)

2013-01-14 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-14 14:51, Holger Levsen wrote: And we will need to take another decision rather soonish: where will we hold DebConf14?!! In our meeting this thursday we should at least come up with a rough timeline for this decision... I pinged the known bid teams about this recently off-list --

Re: [Debconf-team] Some thoughts on sponsorship tiers, and perhaps one improvement.

2012-12-10 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-12-10 09:39, Philipp Hug wrote: I mentioned this before on IRC before. In case we'd go for a reduced price for SME, I'd prefer to keep it simple. (e.g. only create one reduced rate and not three) That sounds more sensible to me, yes. For this discussion with respect to recurring

Re: [Debconf-team] LeCamp - Approval of budget and signing the contract

2012-12-03 Thread Moray Allan
I have added an updated translation of the Le Camp contract to svn, to reflect the changes negotiated last week -- see http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data/dc13/accounting/contracts/Le_Camp/Contrat%20Debconf13%20-%202012-11-29%20-%20translation?view=markup Here is a diff to show the

Re: [Debconf-team] LeCamp - Approval of budget and signing the contract

2012-12-03 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-12-03 23:43, Moray Allan wrote: @@ -55,7 +56,7 @@ - DebConf13 will do the daily cleaning of the spaces, Le Camp will provide the necessary material. Oops, some of the context lines look a bit confusing where they start with hyphens representing dashes/bullet points. This line

[Debconf-team] Cleaning at Le Camp

2012-12-03 Thread Moray Allan
zack requested that we arrange to pay for daily cleaning and dishwashing at Le Camp, rather than attempting to get Debian contributors to do this. Do we have any numbers on this? Can someone at least quote a commercial Swiss price for contract cleaning? I would prefer to know prices for

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Anonymous donation to Debconf 13

2012-12-03 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-12-02 19:22, Holger Levsen wrote: in Switzerland and yet three times we agreed to hold it in Le Camp, because a.) it will be good and b.) other options have other (severe) downsides. I don't think that's an accurate summary of the sequence of events. The recent multiple times when

Re: [Debconf-team] Information about accommodation at le camp (photos and plans) ·

2012-12-03 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-11-26 19:38, Philip Hands wrote: (FYI I'd assumed that the sleeping-mat pictures were just of the room with unmade beds, so apparently it's not necessarily obvious just because there's no bedding in the photos) (Indeed. I was surprised to learn the numbers here, and even someone who

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Information about accommodation at le camp (photos and plans) ·

2012-11-30 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-11-30 18:59, Ian Jackson wrote: Do any of the DC global team have reasonable estimates of the proportion of DC attendees who normally obtain accomodation elsewhere ? Normally it depends on the quality of the main accommodation. Almost all attendees stayed in the good hotel in

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Information about accommodation at le camp (photos and plans) ·

2012-11-30 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-11-30 22:25, Moray Allan wrote: Personally I find this a strong negative I have been asked on IRC to clarify my position/thinking: Personally I think Le Camp is a bad choice of venue. I am influenced in that by how unattractive it is to me personally in the context of a technical

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Information about accommodation at le camp (photos and plans) ·

2012-11-30 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-12-01 00:27, gregor herrmann wrote: I find it quite irritating and disturbing that it's called threats when some people explain honestly and transparently in advance I'm happy to work under cirumcstances foo but not under cirumstances bar (instead of just showing the finger and letting

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Information about accommodation at le camp (photos and plans) ·

2012-11-30 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-12-01 01:03, Moray Allan wrote: For me to threaten to resign is a standard phrase, which does not automatically include any negative judgement on the one who says that they will resign (it's a fairly common phrase in political contexts). I suppose that in my use of English (and I think

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Information about accommodation at le camp (photos and plans) ·

2012-11-30 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-12-01 00:42, Ana Guerrero wrote: It is a pity you (or others) didn't raise your concerns strongly back then. To tell the truth, I think I was surprised that other people did not see them as big concerns when they were raised in the venue decision context. This year, we're still in

Re: [Debconf-team] chair decission how to proceed (was Re: Regarding DebConf13 planned location

2012-11-27 Thread Moray Allan
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 12:51 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: I think we need to get together and decide what we as chairs want to do. Can we please either discuss this via (private) mail (between ourselves) or on some irc channel? I'm happy to share our discussion after the fact, but I would

Re: [Debconf-team] Regarding DebConf13 planned location

2012-11-27 Thread Moray Allan
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 12:39 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: 4.) Le Camp has luxury options (if you manage to share a car) Plenty of hotels are in 20km range of Le Camp, which amounts to 30min driving at most. Considering most people (who dont work at home) have a longer daily communte to work,

Re: [Debconf-team] Regarding DebConf13 planned location

2012-11-27 Thread Moray Allan
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 12:39 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: Or maybe, if Le Camp agrees once again to delay the signing, people will believe those who say that Le Camp is a nice trustworthy organisation This is either misunderstanding people's concerns or a straw man argument: no one is saying

Re: [Debconf-team] Accomodation analysis of Le Camp

2012-11-26 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-11-26 08:03, Andreas Tille wrote: So we failed three times in the standards you are claiming. In other words: In Europe we only had two times the standard you are mentioning (DebConf 9+11) and so I doubt that we do have something like a standard for European DebConfs at all. If I

Re: [Debconf-team] LeCamp - Approval of budget and signing the contract

2012-11-26 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-11-26 22:47, Philipp Hug wrote: budget and give permission to the DebConf13 association to organize DebConf13 at LeCamp within the budget attached. Before I look at the proposed budget, I want to comment on this point. As discussed previously, we should be working under an agreement

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