Speakup, orca and brltty

2019-09-09 Thread Fran Torres
display with speakup and orca screen readers simultaneously. Also, i not wont have problems at uses Firefox with all webpages, etc. Is posible use the Braille display (BRLTTY) how as JAWS for Windows on Windows operating system for example? Fran.

Re: extra file in orca orig.tar.xz file that isn't upstream

2019-09-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
thom...@fastmail.cn, le mar. 03 sept. 2019 13:50:22 -0400, a ecrit: > the releases page on Github which apparently are different than the releases > on Gnome's site. Yes, these are really problematic. github etc. make people think that a release is just a snapshot of the git tree, but with auto*

Re: extra file in orca orig.tar.xz file that isn't upstream

2019-09-03 Thread thomasw
gt; The file po/Makefile.in.in is not included with the Orca sources > > > $ tar tf orca-3.32.0.tar.xz | grep Makefile.in.in > > > orca-3.32.0/po/Makefile.in.in > > > $ tar tf orca-3.33.91.tar.xz | grep Makefile.in.in > > > orca-3.33.91/po/Makefile.in.in >

Re: extra file in orca orig.tar.xz file that isn't upstream

2019-09-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
thom...@fastmail.cn, le lun. 02 sept. 2019 19:16:02 -0400, a ecrit: > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > thom...@fastmail.cn, le lun. 02 sept. 2019 12:30:11 -0400, a ecrit: > > > The file po/Makefile.in.in is not included with the Orca sources > &

Re: extra file in orca orig.tar.xz file that isn't upstream

2019-09-02 Thread thomasw
On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > thom...@fastmail.cn, le lun. 02 sept. 2019 12:30:11 -0400, a ecrit: > > The file po/Makefile.in.in is not included with the Orca sources > > ? > It is: > > $ tar tf orca-3.32.0.tar.xz | grep M

Re: extra file in orca orig.tar.xz file that isn't upstream

2019-09-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, thom...@fastmail.cn, le lun. 02 sept. 2019 12:30:11 -0400, a ecrit: > The file po/Makefile.in.in is not included with the Orca sources ? It is: $ tar tf orca-3.32.0.tar.xz | grep Makefile.in.in orca-3.32.0/po/Makefile.in.in $ tar tf orca-3.33.91.tar.xz | grep Makefile.in.in orca-3.33

extra file in orca orig.tar.xz file that isn't upstream

2019-09-02 Thread thomasw
Hi, The file po/Makefile.in.in is not included with the Orca sources and should be generated by the build. I deleted it and the package wouldn't build. I fixed the build by adding to the rules file override_dh_auto_configure: NOCONFIGURE=1 ./autogen.sh dh_auto_configure Just

Re: Orca Wiki Page

2019-08-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le sam. 31 août 2019 12:10:04 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 31.08.2019, 12:02 +0200: > >Better use a separate namespace early :) > Would you create the namespace, please? Apparently it's a matter of putting pages in it :) I have renamed t

Re: Orca Wiki Page

2019-08-31 Thread Sebastian Humenda

Re: Orca Wiki pPage

2019-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thinking about it: we should probably put these subpages in a accessibility/ namespace? Just like there is https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller , but also https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ , https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/MultipathSupport , etc. Samuel

Re: Orca Wiki pPage

2019-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, le ven. 30 août 2019 10:43:10 +0200, a ecrit: > I revised and updated the Wiki article on Orca in Debian: > > https://wiki.debian.org/Orca > > It would be great if you could have a look and edit, enhance or criticise the > page. Nice! I

Orca Wiki pPage

2019-08-30 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hi all I revised and updated the Wiki article on Orca in Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/Orca It would be great if you could have a look and edit, enhance or criticise the page. Cheers Sebastian signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le lun. 26 août 2019 23:00:39 +0200, a ecrit: > On 26/08/2019 22:12, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > I don't know how these are supposed to work and why it fails on > > your system. I'd recommend contacting the pulseaudio maintainers, > > pkg-pulseaudio-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org > >

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-26 Thread Didier Spaier
Hello On 26/08/2019 22:12, Samuel Thibault wrote: Sebseb01, le lun. 26 août 2019 15:49:22 +0200, a ecrit: If i launch pulseaudio in terminal it say it already launched. Was it running under your user identity, or something else? Ans after this if i'm logout and login again, sound working

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebseb01, le lun. 26 août 2019 15:49:22 +0200, a ecrit: > If i launch pulseaudio in terminal it say it already launched. Was it running under your user identity, or something else? > Ans after this if i'm logout and login again, sound working well. You can > found > below a extract of  syslog

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-26 Thread Sebseb01
Hello, If i launch pulseaudio in terminal it say it already launched. if I kill pulseaudio with "pulseaudio -k" and relaunch it with "pulseaudio" i dont'have error. Ans after this if i'm logout and login again, sound working well. You can found below a extract of syslog from the boot when i do

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-26 Thread Alex ARNAUD
xorg" in gdm, i don't have sound after login, Braille working well. in Orca settings all setting for Vox are disabled (i can't select speech-dispatcher). Working well if i return in "Gnome". (Now, arrow up and down, stop working for navigation in topbar of gnome-shell with way

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebseb01, le dim. 25 août 2019 12:48:21 +0200, a ecrit: > in espeak-ng.log i found only this line : > > pulse.c: pa_simple_new() failed: Connection refused It's surprising that this would fail in Xorg while it works in Wayland. What does running pulseaudio by hand say? Samuel

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-25 Thread Sebseb01
Hello, spd-say not work. in speech-dispatcher.log all module have this error : [Sun Aug 25 11:31:17 2019 : 822134] speechd: Error: Module reported error in request from speechd (code 3xx): 300-Opening sound device failed. Reason: Couldn't open pulse plugin. 300 UNKNOWN ERROR . later in

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebseb01, le sam. 24 août 2019 13:01:18 +0200, a ecrit: > I donˆt have idea for solving this sound problem. any one can suggest a > solution ? you need more info ? Yes, we need more info. "doesn't work" can't be enough information :) Does spd-say foo speak something? Also, can you send the

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-24 Thread Sebseb01
Hello, thank-you for your answer. But it's not so easy. When i selected "gnome on xorg" in gdm, i don't have sound after login, Braille working well. in Orca settings all setting for Vox are disabled (i can't select speech-dispatcher). Working well if i return in "Gnome&qu

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebseb01, le ven. 23 août 2019 10:28:40 +0200, a ecrit: > i have a debian buster with gnome desktop (gnome-shell) with wayland. Please switch back gnome to X11. These are known issues with Wayland that can't be resolved easily. Samuel

Buster and Orca

2019-08-23 Thread Sebseb01
Hello, I'm using orca with an voice on debian from 2 years ago.. I'm just recently suscribed to this list, i'm sorry if i missed a message. I have just installed an fresh debian buster ( but i don't earase my /home) , and i have 2 difficulties with my Orca, i don't know if is a bug

Re: Orca 3.33.90 up for testing in experimental

2019-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, adri, le lun. 05 août 2019 12:01:21 +0200, a ecrit: > How can we install experimental orca packages? You can enable the experimental distribution by - adding deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main to your /etc/apt/sources.list - running sudo apt-get update - running s

Re: reportbug making orca unresponsive

2019-08-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le ven. 09 août 2019 07:58:12 +0200, a ecrit: > > DISPLAY= reportbug > > > > to prevent the reportbug gtk backend from popping up at all. > > Does that mean that 'reportbug' is ignoring 'DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text/readline'? No, it's not. But see bug 934093: the mere fact of importing gtk

Re: reportbug making orca unresponsive

2019-08-08 Thread john doe
On 8/8/2019 10:15 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > It was reported on > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=934093 that running > reportbug > makes orca very unresponsive. This seems because reportbug has a gtk > backend which half-pops up to at-spi, l

reportbug making orca unresponsive

2019-08-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, It was reported on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=934093 that running reportbug makes orca very unresponsive. This seems because reportbug has a gtk backend which half-pops up to at-spi, leaving Orca with only questions. An easy way to work around this is to use

Re: Orca 3.33.90 up for testing in experimental

2019-08-05 Thread adri
Hi Samuel How can we install experimental orca packages? Which desktop environment are the orca team focused in? I want to know this to know where to test orca El 05/08/2019 a las 11:35, Samuel Thibault escribió: Hello, Orca 3.33.90 has landed in experimental. Please test it and report

Orca 3.33.90 up for testing in experimental

2019-08-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Orca 3.33.90 has landed in experimental. Please test it and report issues to orca-l...@gnome.org so they can be fixed for the 3.34 stable release! Samuel

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-02-09 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:37 PM Jason White wrote: > If the user has to rely on "flat review" to navigate to an object, then > that indicates a serious accessibility bug I think we all agree on that. gnome-control-center is a complex app and I expect it will take someone a good deal of time to

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-02-09 Thread Jason White
On 2/8/19 7:16 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: To be clear, if you're using Orca, the Orca navigation for this works quite well. Yes, everything would be great if it had keyboard navigation. And yes, for people who don't need a screen reader, but for whom a mouse is not usable, the keyboard

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 21:30:26 -0500, a ecrit: > >>>>> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: > > Samuel> Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 08:04:33 -0500, a > Samuel> ecrit: > >> Orca

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-02-08 Thread Sam Hartman
t; regression from entering a release. To be clear, if you're using Orca, the Orca navigation for this works quite well. Yes, everything would be great if it had keyboard navigation. And yes, for people who don't need a screen reader, but for whom a mouse is not usable, the keyboard navigation is critical.

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-02-08 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 3:51 PM Sam Hartman wrote: > 2) Since stretch, the UI of the settings panel has been significantly > redone. It looks like there is a list of possible task areas along the > side. There doesn't seem to be good keyboard navigation to get into > that list; it doesn't appear

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-02-08 Thread Jason White
it to the Orca list in case I was missing an obvious keyboard navigation strategy, but didn't receive any response to that issue. If it's a bug, then it's a fairly serious one from an accessibility point of view, and the maintainers really should put in place a strategy for preventing this kind

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-02-08 Thread Sam Hartman
>>>>> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: Samuel> Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 08:04:33 -0500, a Samuel> ecrit: >> Orca announces the settings frame, but fails to interact with it. Samuel> Does orca announce anything when

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-01-16 Thread Sam Hartman
>>>>> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: Samuel> Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 08:04:33 -0500, a Samuel> ecrit: >> Orca announces the settings frame, but fails to interact with it. Samuel> Does orca announce anything when

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 08:04:33 -0500, a ecrit: > Orca announces the settings frame, but fails to interact with it. Does orca announce anything when going around with shortcuts? (on my system it does) > Lots of CPU gets consumed and the system generally hangs until

Re: getting orca and espeakup/speakup to work together

2018-11-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeffery Mewtamer, le lun. 19 nov. 2018 21:49:23 +, a ecrit: > I can't speak for the Debian Testing version of Firefox, but the > versions in Debian Unstable only suggest pulseaudio, Yes, but last time I tried, without pulseaudio sound doesn't work inside firefox. Unless using apulse as you

Re: getting orca and espeakup/speakup to work together

2018-11-19 Thread Jeffery Mewtamer
(might be word wrapped, it its one line): sudo patchelf --set-rpath /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/apulse/ libxul.so You will probably need to adjust the i386 part of the path if your running 64-bit x86 or non-x86 versions of Debian. Can't speak for it fixing compatibility between Orca and espeakup since

Re: getting orca and espeakup/speakup to work together

2018-11-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, > On 19/11/2018 21:19, John G Heim wrote: > > What is the trick to getting speakup with software speech and orca to work > > at the same time. I have both debian stretch and ubuntu bionic systems and > > on both machines, I have to disable espeakup to get orca to wor

orca 3.31.1 uploaded to experimental

2018-11-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, It's now a bit old, but I have uploaded the 3.31.1 version of orca in Debian experimental, for people to give it a try and be able to report issues upstream without having to install orca master by hand. It should be available on the mirror next to you within half a dozen hours. Samuel

Re: Fwd: Bug912753: orca-sops: Initialization impossible as normal user

2018-11-03 Thread Didier Spaier
Hello, Same here, on debian-buster in a VirtualBox VM: didier@debian:~$ su - Mot de passe : root@debian:~# apt install orca-sops Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait Construction de l'arbre des dépendances Lecture des informations d'état... Fait Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants seront

Orca 3.30

2018-10-19 Thread Mika Hanhijärvi
Hi I am a blind user and I am using Debian Stretch. I just upgraded the Orca screen reader to version 3.30 available in the Stretch backports. I noticed that after upgrading the Orca screen reader the Gnome desktop Applications menu does not work with Orca anymore. Orca speaks nothing when

Re: Userland Android project, Orca and accessibility

2018-10-07 Thread Mgr. Janusz Chmiel
Dear Mr Tibault, There is currently big programmers issue, which prevent Userland from running whole Gnome or other desktop with Orca. FIrst of all, all C++ apps, which allocates shared memory and their programmers concept do not count with The fact, that this feature can not be available

Re: Userland Android project, Orca and accessibility

2018-10-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le sam. 29 sept. 2018 15:34:50 +0200, a ecrit: > any advices, which will give me the right direction how to support also this > very specific environment will be very welcomed. >From my side, I have no idea how that Android environment works and don't have access to

Userland Android project, Orca and accessibility

2018-09-29 Thread Mgr. Janusz Chmiel
lone GTK applications such as Caja file manager Synaptic package manager mate-terminal No gnome-terminal. OK, but I AM sad that I can not run my favourite Firefox WEB Browser. And the saddest think is that there is no crash which I could use to find out, why Firefox do not cooperate with Orca sc

Re: orca 3.28 users should upgrade to 3.28.1-2

2018-06-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alex ARNAUD, le ven. 29 juin 2018 11:56:34 +0200, a ecrit: > Could you also keep in mind to apply the patch in stretch-backports too? Oh indeed, now uploaded. Samuel

Re: orca 3.28 users should upgrade to 3.28.1-2

2018-06-29 Thread Alex ARNAUD
Hello Samuel, Thanks for the quick fix. Could you also keep in mind to apply the patch in stretch-backports too? Best regards, Alex. Le 29/06/2018 à 00:54, Samuel Thibault a écrit : Hello, The wordwrap option has been enabling itself in orca 3.28, even if it is still quite experimental

orca 3.28 users should upgrade to 3.28.1-2

2018-06-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, The wordwrap option has been enabling itself in orca 3.28, even if it is still quite experimental. People who have Orca 3.28 should upgrade to package 3.28.1-2 which I have just uploaded and should land to testing in a couple of days, to get the fix, then restart Orca, and disable

Orca Plugins

2018-05-13 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hi All the "Simple Orca Plugin System" has just landed in unstable. It contains two default plugins, one to read the clipboard (using Caps+c) and another to get the current workspace number (Caps + x). There are more plugins, but I wanted to check with you whether you find the plu

Orca 3.28 available in stretch-backports

2018-04-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Orca 3.28 is now available in stretch-backports. You can get it by adding this apt repository line: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch-backports main and running apt-get install -t stretch-backports gnome-orca libatk-adaptor which will bring the latest accessibility stack

Re: Orca not reading some punctuation when espeak-ng is used I found so far less than and greater than

2018-04-16 Thread am_dxer
AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote: > Hello am_dxer, > > I suspect a bug on the speech-dispatcher side or on espeak-ng side. > Could it be possible for you to investigate this issue? > > Best regards, > Alex. > > Le 16/04/2018 à 05:56, am_d...@fastmail.fm a écrit : > > W

Re: Orca not reading some punctuation when espeak-ng is used I found so far less than and greater than

2018-04-16 Thread Alex ARNAUD
Hello am_dxer, I suspect a bug on the speech-dispatcher side or on espeak-ng side. Could it be possible for you to investigate this issue? Best regards, Alex. Le 16/04/2018 à 05:56, am_d...@fastmail.fm a écrit : When using Espeak-ng, Orca doesn't read < or > for me when punctuation

Orca not reading some punctuation when espeak-ng is used I found so far less than and greater than

2018-04-15 Thread am_dxer
When using Espeak-ng, Orca doesn't read < or > for me when punctuation is set to all. I didn't have this problem when using standard Espeak. This can be reproduced when reading by line or word. I tested in Firefox and Pluma. The punctuation setting is on the speech tab of Orca's prefe

Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems

2018-03-18 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
IN wrote: >>> Hi John >>> >>>> On 17 Mar 2018, at 14:30, john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com> wrote: >>>> If you don't start orca is speakup speaking? >>> >>> Yes, Speakup speaks under the text console (CTRL+ALT+F1 etc). Orca >>>

Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems

2018-03-18 Thread Jude DaShiell
an.org Subject: Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 12:49:33 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org On 18/03/18 07:15, john doe wrote: Hi James, I'm sending this e-mail through the list in the hope that this nas

Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems

2018-03-18 Thread Keith Barrett
start orca is speakup speaking? Yes, Speakup speaks under the text console (CTRL+ALT+F1 etc). Orca does not speak under the MATE desktop. It looks like it's the pulse audio bug back again. Yes that is my conclusion also. I thought that this particular bug had been squashed years ago

Debian on Raspberry Pi with Orca is it possible?

2018-03-18 Thread Egon
Hi All, Is it possible to use Debian on Raspberry with Orca speech support? Can anybody has an experience about how to use it on Raspberry? Are there any problem with speed etc? I know that Raspbian is optimised to use with Raspberry but it's accessibility is offtopic on this list

Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems

2018-03-18 Thread john doe
Hi James, I'm sending this e-mail through the list in the hope that this nasty bug will be fixed once and for all. On 3/17/2018 5:54 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: Hi John On 17 Mar 2018, at 14:30, john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com> wrote: If you don't start orca is speakup speaking?

Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems

2018-03-17 Thread john doe
. I love the fact that Debian includes both Orca and Speakup out of the box. However, I have encountered a small problem running Orca on a fresh install of Stretch. I have installed MATE, as i am under the impression that it is currently the most accessible desktop environment. I have modified

Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems

2018-03-17 Thread James AUSTIN
Orca and Speakup out of the box. However, I have encountered a small problem running Orca on a fresh install of Stretch. I have installed MATE, as i am under the impression that it is currently the most accessible desktop environment. I have modified speechd.conf to use ALSA because Pulse appears

Re: [orca-list] update on the antergos problems (fwd)

2018-02-13 Thread Jude DaShiell
-- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 06:35:38 From: kendell clark <coffeekin...@gmail.com> To: "orca-l...@gnome.org" <orca-l...@gnome.org> Subject: Re: [orca-list] update on the antergos problems Hi I?m sorry, I should?ve been clearer. I

Re: Orca, Speech-dispatcher and power management

2018-01-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam wrote: > This is mostly true because speech-dispatcher uses blocking threads > rather than an event loop. The blocking happens in the module, *not* > the audio library. You mean in the module "speak" thread, right, I didn't think about that. Actually, I've wondered why each and

Re: Orca, Speech-dispatcher and power management

2018-01-09 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Felipe" == Felipe Sateler writes: Felipe>On Jan 6, 2018 09:36, "Sam Hartman" wrote: >> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: Samuel> Hello, Samuel> Sam Hartman, on sam. 06 janv. 2018 06:09:44 -0500,

Re: Orca, Speech-dispatcher and power management

2018-01-06 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Jan 6, 2018 09:36, "Sam Hartman" wrote: > "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: Samuel> Hello, Samuel> Sam Hartman, on sam. 06 janv. 2018 06:09:44 -0500, wrote: >> * Will limiting the number of streams speech-dispatcher opens >>

Re: Orca, Speech-dispatcher and power management

2018-01-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, on sam. 06 janv. 2018 09:26:39 -0500, wrote: > That makes sense to me, but is different than your earlier answer of it > shouldn't matter because they are dormant. I just meant that the presence of the modules themselves is not a problem. > If there's a benefit in suspending the

Re: Orca, Speech-dispatcher and power management

2018-01-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, on sam. 06 janv. 2018 07:36:25 -0500, wrote: > > "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: > > Samuel> Hello, > Samuel> Sam Hartman, on sam. 06 janv. 2018 06:09:44 -0500, wrote: > >> * Will limiting the number of streams speech-dispatcher opens >

Re: Orca, Speech-dispatcher and power management

2018-01-06 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: Samuel> Hello, Samuel> Sam Hartman, on sam. 06 janv. 2018 06:09:44 -0500, wrote: >> * Will limiting the number of streams speech-dispatcher opens >> have any significant improvement. Are there actual costs to >>

Re: Orca, Speech-dispatcher and power management

2018-01-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, on sam. 06 janv. 2018 06:09:44 -0500, wrote: > * Will limiting the number of streams speech-dispatcher opens have any > significant improvement. Are there actual costs to having the > sd_generic and sd_dummy streams open even when they are unneeded? I don't think there

Orca, Speech-dispatcher and power management

2018-01-06 Thread Sam Hartman
I'd appreciate being copied on replies. hi. A while ago I was looking at the power usage of our GUI screen reader stack. I came back to that project recently. I'm running stock stretch with Orca. I'm running pulseaudio and speech-dispatcher both as user processes. I was initially suspicious

Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter

2018-01-03 Thread john doe
far away in my head, unless you link things by reusing the same mail thread. It's actually a new thread with a new question. I simply answerd your question. That's why I disable speakup/orca from autamatically speaking but I need to keep orca/speakup when I help them. So you basically need

Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter

2018-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
out adding a debconf question in the debian installer, but so many things happened and made its way to my mbox in the meanwhile (like a hundred of mails, litteraly) that it's far away in my head, unless you link things by reusing the same mail thread. > That's why I disable speakup/orca from autamat

Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter

2018-01-03 Thread john doe
On 1/3/2018 3:24 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, john doe, on mar. 02 janv. 2018 17:26:44 +0100, wrote: How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter? I guess you can type insert-Q to make Orca quit? Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my credentials

Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter

2018-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on mer. 03 janv. 2018 15:24:19 +0100, wrote: > john doe, on mar. 02 janv. 2018 17:26:44 +0100, wrote: > > How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter? > > I guess you can type insert-Q to make Orca quit? Alternatively, I guess insert-s can turn speech off temporarily. Samuel

Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter

2018-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, on mar. 02 janv. 2018 17:26:44 +0100, wrote: > How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter? I guess you can type insert-Q to make Orca quit? > Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my > credentials before logging into 'MATE'. Just

Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter

2018-01-02 Thread john doe
On 1/2/2018 9:54 PM, Alex ARNAUD wrote: Le 02/01/2018 à 17:26, john doe a écrit : Hi list, How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter? Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my credentials before logging into 'MATE'. Hello John, I use the following

Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter

2018-01-02 Thread Alex ARNAUD
Le 02/01/2018 à 17:26, john doe a écrit : Hi list, How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter? Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my credentials before logging into 'MATE'. Hello John, I use the following command on Debian to remove Orca on lightdm

Re: Debian Official Live DVD and Orca problem

2017-12-20 Thread Alex ARNAUD
The Debian Live DVD is not really maintained. If you want to use a live image of a GNU/Linux distribution you should use Ubuntu Mate where the keyboard shortcut works. Best regards. -- Alex ARNAUD Visual-Impairment Project Manager Hypra - "Humanizing technology" Le 20/12/2017 à 13:13, Egon a

Re: Debian Official Live DVD and Orca problem

2017-12-20 Thread Egon
Hi! Desktop was completely loaded when I tried to press Windows-Alt-s key combination. I asked my friend's help to see the screen. I pressed the Windows-Alt-s combination, nothing happpened. I waited some minutes but the same result. :-( What is wrong? Best regards: Egon

Re: how to get Orca speaking at login, and also retriev use of TTY1

2017-12-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Al Sten-Clanton, on lun. 18 déc. 2017 18:05:58 -0500, wrote: > However, if I go to another > terminal to use speakup, for example, tty1 no longer works--or, at least, I > have to log in there again. Typically, tty2 or sometimes another one > becomes my graphical terminal. I end up minus

Re: Debian Official Live DVD and Orca problem

2017-12-18 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, Egon wrote: Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:17:57 From: Egon <cvimai...@gmail.com> To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian Official Live DVD and Orca problem Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 20:18:26 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-accessi

Re: Debian Official Live DVD and Orca problem

2017-12-18 Thread Egon
Hello! Unfortunately Windows-Alt-s combination do not work me too. :-( Orca do not start. I press it when the desktop is loaded. What is the reason of it? Best regards: Egon

Re: Debian Official Live DVD and Orca problem

2017-12-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Egon, on sam. 16 déc. 2017 10:56:47 +0100, wrote: > I want to try the Debian Live system with Orca but Orca do not start when I > press altGr-s combination when the system is loaded. I tried to press the > left Alt-key too. It's super-alt-s (aka windows-alt-s) Samuel

Debian Official Live DVD and Orca problem

2017-12-16 Thread Egon
Hi All! I want to try the Debian Live system with Orca but Orca do not start when I press altGr-s combination when the system is loaded. I tried to press the left Alt-key too. I visited Debian Accessibility Wiki. I pressed altGr-s when the system boots up but Orca did not start. Pressing Alt

Re: Firefox from Debian Experimental repo not funcioning correctly with Orca but same version from Mozilla prebuilt functions correctly

2017-11-24 Thread am_dxer
I should add that I was running the Firefox 57 Beta from Experimental previously so the problem occurred with the upgrade to 58. On Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 11:21 AM, am_d...@fastmail.fm wrote: > I noticed that when launchin Firefox 58 from the Debian experimental > repo, Orca only says

Firefox from Debian Experimental repo not funcioning correctly with Orca but same version from Mozilla prebuilt functions correctly

2017-11-24 Thread am_dxer
I noticed that when launchin Firefox 58 from the Debian experimental repo, Orca only says "frame" and does not speak any other information. When I download a prebuilt version of Firefox 58 Beta 4 from Mozilla, it functions correctly with Orca. I was just wondering if anyone else can

Re: [orca-list] Sound Parameters on Net Installer? Need speech for accessibility

2017-11-13 Thread David Hunt
try this image: https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso Thanks, Samuel ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https

Debian 9 problem: speak only espeakup or only orca.

2017-10-23 Thread Павел
Hi guys. I installed Debian 9 "Stretch" with the desktop Mate. Now I have that kind of problem: 1. Or start espeakup and orca is silent. 2. Or start orca and espeakup is silent. Often start espeakup and orca is silent. In consequence of that desktop for me is not available. Is it possi

Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on lun. 25 sept. 2017 01:37:19 +0200, wrote: > Samuel Thibault, on dim. 17 sept. 2017 23:11:17 +0200, wrote: > > Ok, it seems there is also incompatibility with lightdm. > > Ah, no. The registryd daemon remains behind, but it does not actually > hurt the Orca

Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on dim. 17 sept. 2017 23:11:17 +0200, wrote: > Ok, it seems there is also incompatibility with lightdm. Ah, no. The registryd daemon remains behind, but it does not actually hurt the Orca startup, at least on systems installed with the Debian Installer. I'll now check with l

Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Luke Yelavich, on lun. 18 sept. 2017 07:44:06 +1000, wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:11:17AM AEST, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Ok, it seems there is also incompatibility with lightdm. > > I wonder whether this linked bug is the culpret. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1670933

Re: gnome-orca version policy?

2017-09-19 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 19-09-17 04:53, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: >> Can't we find an easy way to have these delta's within the package? I >> believe there is some trick to apply patches only in Ubuntu (not sure >> how stable that is, but I'd

Re: gnome-orca version policy?

2017-09-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jeremy Bicha, on lun. 18 sept. 2017 22:53:41 -0400, wrote: > I can do this if there is consensus that we want this. I am fine with it. Samuel

Re: gnome-orca version policy?

2017-09-18 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: > Can't we find an easy way to have these delta's within the package? I > believe there is some trick to apply patches only in Ubuntu (not sure > how stable that is, but I'd like the discussion). Yes, this can be done by

Re: gnome-orca version policy?

2017-09-18 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Jeremy On 16-09-17 12:45, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Ubuntu's orca has 2 extra patches: one for better Unity support and > one to use gsettings for new installs. Otherwise, the a11y packages > are in sync now between Debian and Ubuntu, at least in the Debian VCS. Can't we find an easy wa

Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-17 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:11:17AM AEST, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Ok, it seems there is also incompatibility with lightdm. I wonder whether this linked bug is the culpret. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1670933 Luke -- Please check out my Patreon campaign and spread the word.

Re: gnome-orca version policy?

2017-09-17 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 08:45:11PM AEST, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Ubuntu's orca has 2 extra patches: one for better Unity support and > one to use gsettings for new installs. Otherwise, the a11y packages > are in sync now between Debian and Ubuntu, at least in the Debian VCS. The GSetting

Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Egon, on lun. 11 sept. 2017 03:33:14 +0200, wrote: > eval $(dbus-launch); export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID > GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications > screen-reader-enabled true > GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.mate.interface

Re: gnome-orca version policy?

2017-09-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeremy Bicha, on sam. 16 sept. 2017 06:45:11 -0400, wrote: > On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Paul Gevers wrote: > > On 02-09-17 21:05, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > >> I am now a DD so I can help with uploads if desired. > > > > That would be great. I hope that means way less Debian

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