Bug#757635: gnome-orca: Create a shortcut to set the speech volume

2015-06-05 Thread Ksamak
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 03:21:12 +0200 Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu wrote: Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.12.2-1 Severity: wishlist Dear Maintainer, *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? I try

Bug#782979: marked as done (gnome-orca: Orca says black circle)

2015-04-22 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:21:14 + with message-id e1ykrmm-0002fg...@franck.debian.org and subject line Bug#782979: fixed in gnome-orca 3.16.1-1 has caused the Debian Bug report #782979, regarding gnome-orca: Orca says black circle to be marked as done. This means that you claim

Bug#706544: gnome-orca: No more braille output after restarting orca

2015-03-02 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, Can you check the braille is enabled in your Preferences dialog? Then, can you open a terminal in your graphical session, exit orca, run: orca --debug ? Then, exit again and run your screen reader as usual. Send us the .out file which should be generated. Thanks, Regards, Le 02/03/2015

Bug#706548: gnome-orca: No speech in login screen

2015-03-02 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
I cannot reproduce, but I suspect a speech-dispatcher problem. You could try something like su lightdm -c speech-dispatcher as root, after you kill all speech-dispatcher sessions. Regards, Le 02/03/2015 08:04, Odd Martin Baanrud a écrit : Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-4 Followup

Bug#706544: gnome-orca: No more braille output after restarting orca

2015-03-01 Thread Odd Martin Baanrud
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-4 Followup-For: Bug #706544 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, What this bug report describes is actually the problem I told about in Bug #779404. At the login screen, braille is working, but once loged in, braile output is missing

Bug#706548: gnome-orca: No speech in login screen

2015-03-01 Thread Odd Martin Baanrud
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-4 Followup-For: Bug #706548 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello again, When lightdm starts at boot, I have both braille and speech output. However, when logging out, and the login screen re-appears, I only get braille output. - -- System

Bug#766686: gnome-orca: Please apply a patch applied upstream

2015-02-09 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-3 Followup-For: Bug #766686 Dear Maintainer, Thanks Joanie's work, a workaround was committed in master (commit 9dc9b6dc8b6bb4d7092e2c0ad6e7973340fa023a). Could you apply it for gnome-orca 3.10.0-4? It doesn't seem to have a big colateral effects risk

Bug#777574: xbrlapi: overwrites the Orca output as soon as the current window has its title changed

2015-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: xbrlapi Version: 5.2~20141018-3 Severity: important Tags: patch Hello, In Debian, we automatically start xbrlapi -q so braille input works fine, and then we start Orca. If the user, for some reason, restarts xbrlapi -q, that will take precedence over the Orca output, which should

Bug#777378: gnome-orca: braille output broken when using lightm to log in when xbrlapi bug #777377 is fixed

2015-02-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-2 Severity: important Hello, When bug #777377 of xbrlapi is fixed, the gnome-orca output will be broken, because gnome-orca has the same issue as xbrlapi: lightdm only defines XDG_VTNR to the VT number (for instance 7), not WINDOWPATH, and gnome-orca only

Bug#777378: marked as done (gnome-orca: braille output broken when using lightm to log in when xbrlapi bug #777377 is fixed)

2015-02-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 07 Feb 2015 21:19:36 + with message-id e1ykcmu-00052u...@franck.debian.org and subject line Bug#777378: fixed in gnome-orca 3.14.0-3 has caused the Debian Bug report #777378, regarding gnome-orca: braille output broken when using lightm to log in when xbrlapi bug

Bug#766688: gnome-orca: Bug fixed in icedove 34

2014-12-26 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Package: gnome-orca Followup-For: Bug #766688 Dear Maintainer, The bug is fixed in Icedove 34 (experimental repo). I will close the bug. *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? * What exactly did you do (or not do

Bug#706548: gnome-orca: No speech in login screen

2014-12-19 Thread intrigeri
you're using gdm3 3.4.1-8. https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#gdm_accessibility reads: Then, you can enable orca with either of four ways: * It is enabled automatically when accessibility features were enabled to access the Debian Installer * [...] So I'm wondering at what point

Processed: Re: Bug#706771: gnome-orca: Shutdown manu in Debian 7 is inaccessible

2014-12-19 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: tag -1 + moreinfo Bug #706771 [gnome-orca] gnome-orca: Shutdown manu in Debian 7 is inaccessible Added tag(s) moreinfo. -- 706771: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=706771 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems

Bug#706771: gnome-orca: Shutdown manu in Debian 7 is inaccessible

2014-12-19 Thread intrigeri
Control: tag -1 + moreinfo Hi Jann, Jann Schneider wrote (04 May 2013 15:51:38 GMT) : I cannot read the shutdown options in Debian 7 RC2. Can you reproduce this on current Debian testing (Jessie) or sid? Cheers! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-11-23 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2014-10-21 at 00:13 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Do you feel like uploading this change for Jessie, or we'd rather go the wrapper way for Jessie? That really looks a bit invasive for Jessie. -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-11-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Yves-Alexis Perez, le Sun 23 Nov 2014 23:14:31 +0100, a écrit : On mar., 2014-10-21 at 00:13 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Do you feel like uploading this change for Jessie, or we'd rather go the wrapper way for Jessie? That really looks a bit invasive for Jessie. Ok, I'll keep the

Where are Orca user settings stored?

2014-11-10 Thread Shérab
Dear all, I'm wondering where Orca 3.14 stores user preferences? I couldn't find them so far. Thanks a lot, Shérab. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https

Re: [orca-list] Where are Orca user settings stored?

2014-11-10 Thread José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
You can find at ~/.local/share/orca/ On 11/10/2014 09:27 AM, Shérab wrote: Dear all, I'm wondering where Orca 3.14 stores user preferences? I couldn't find them so far. Thanks a lot, Shérab. ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org https

Re: [orca-list] Where are Orca user settings stored?

2014-11-10 Thread Shérab
José Vilmar Estácio de Souza (2014/11/10 09:34 -0200): You can find at ~/.local/share/orca/ Indeed, thanks! Any idea which are the files that are actually used? Is it user-settings.py or user-settings.conf? Or both? Thanks! Shérab. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ

Re: [orca-list] Where are Orca user settings stored?

2014-11-10 Thread Shérab
José Vilmar Estácio de Souza (2014/11/10 12:22 -0200): In my 3.14 installation, only user-settings.conf is present. No user-settings.py is present. Okay thanks a lot José. Yes, I guess the .py is a left-over from an older version of Orca. Shérab. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: [orca-list] Where are Orca user settings stored?

2014-11-10 Thread José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
In my 3.14 installation, only user-settings.conf is present. No user-settings.py is present. is present. On 11/10/2014 11:20 AM, Shérab wrote: José Vilmar Estácio de Souza (2014/11/10 09:34 -0200): You can find at ~/.local/share/orca/ Indeed, thanks! Any idea which are the files

Bug#766701: gnome-orca: Conf files

2014-10-27 Thread Mario Lang
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu writes: Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-1 Followup-For: Bug #766701 Dear Maintainer, Here are 3 files: Pidgin.conf and pidgin.py (in app-settings), from orca 3.12-1. Pidginupdate.conf, which is the Pidgin.conf with Orca 3.14. (pidgin.py

orca and iceweasel in debian wheezy not working well since iceweasel 31 upgrade

2014-10-26 Thread Halim Sahin
hi, Currently orca doesn't work very well with currently shipped iceweasel 31 version in debian stable. I was told that a mapping should be added to orca for loading the correct firefox script. I did some testing and found that some tracesbacks in orca don't happen. The mentioned addition doesn't

Re: orca and iceweasel in debian wheezy not working well since iceweasel 31 upgrade

2014-10-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le Sun 26 Oct 2014 11:01:54 +0100, a écrit : Currently orca doesn't work very well with currently shipped iceweasel 31 version in debian stable. Please see bug #743440. I'll probably NMU the change after the freeze. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ

Bug#673899: marked as done (gnome-orca: Cannot enable magnifier. Bonobo.GeneralError is thrown whenever the box gets checked.)

2014-10-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 25 Oct 2014 13:04:39 +0200 with message-id 20141025110439.ga2...@type.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr and subject line Re: Bug#673899: gnome-orca: Cannot enable magnifier. Bonobo.GeneralError is thrown whenever the box gets checked. has caused the Debian Bug report #673899

Bug#494381: marked as done (gnome-orca: documentation should explain how to move focus back to cursor)

2014-10-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 25 Oct 2014 13:15:06 -0400 with message-id tsl4musjckl@mit.edu and subject line Re: Bug#494381: (no subject) has caused the Debian Bug report #494381, regarding gnome-orca: documentation should explain how to move focus back to cursor to be marked as done. This means

Bug#757847: marked as done (accessibility: orca doesn't read notifications messages)

2014-10-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 25 Oct 2014 22:21:44 + with message-id e1xi9is-0002mw...@franck.debian.org and subject line Bug#757847: fixed in gnome-orca 3.14.0-2 has caused the Debian Bug report #757847, regarding accessibility: orca doesn't read notifications messages to be marked as done

Bug#766804: gnome-orca: app-specific preferences: problem to set bindings

2014-10-25 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-1 Severity: important Dear Maintainer, *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? orca 3.14.0, MATE, Iceweasel. * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective

Bug#766688: Icedove: orca no longer speak the status bar

2014-10-24 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-1 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? Orca 3.14, recent update. * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or ineffective

Bug#756931: gnome-orca: problem with shortcuts and keypad

2014-10-24 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Package: gnome-orca Followup-For: Bug #756931 Dear Maintainer, The bug can be closed as 3.14.0. Regards, *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective

Bug#506238: marked as done (Orca text-setup doesn't work)

2014-10-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 25 Oct 2014 00:22:37 +0200 with message-id 544ad12d.6080...@free.fr and subject line has caused the Debian Bug report #506238, regarding Orca text-setup doesn't work to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt

Bug#669067: marked as done (gnome-orca: orca too slow in icedove)

2014-10-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 25 Oct 2014 00:20:35 +0200 with message-id 544ad0b3.5080...@free.fr and subject line has caused the Debian Bug report #669067, regarding gnome-orca: orca too slow in icedove to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt

Bug#583794: marked as done (gnome-orca: Impossible to write upper a on braille keyboard)

2014-10-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 25 Oct 2014 00:21:23 +0200 with message-id 544ad0e3.7090...@free.fr and subject line has caused the Debian Bug report #583794, regarding gnome-orca: Impossible to write upper a on braille keyboard to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been

Bug#766701: pidgin: orca always speaks messages

2014-10-24 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-1 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? Orca 3.14 with a clean settings dir. MATE. notification-daemon usable. * What exactly did you do

Bug#766701: gnome-orca: Conf files

2014-10-24 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-1 Followup-For: Bug #766701 Dear Maintainer, Here are 3 files: Pidgin.conf and pidgin.py (in app-settings), from orca 3.12-1. Pidginupdate.conf, which is the Pidgin.conf with Orca 3.14. (pidgin.py missing) Regards *** Reporter, please consider answering

Re: Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-22 Thread D. A. H.
-greeter-ubuntu-mate.conf among others. Any suggestions? Thanks, Dave Hunt On 10/19/2014 06:21 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, lightdm will apparently be the default dm for non-gnome DE such as XFCE, LXDE, MATE. ATM it never auto-start Orca, some code would be needed

Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, lightdm will apparently be the default dm for non-gnome DE such as XFCE, LXDE, MATE. ATM it never auto-start Orca, some code would be needed for this. No keyboard shortcut is available either to start it by hand. I'm thinking about using the greeter-wrapper hook for this: the gnome-orca

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-20 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On lun., 2014-10-20 at 00:21 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, lightdm will apparently be the default dm for non-gnome DE such as XFCE, LXDE, MATE. ATM it never auto-start Orca, some code would be needed for this. So much for not starting that automatically, then. Did the plan change

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Yves-Alexis Perez, le Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:34:22 +0200, a écrit : On lun., 2014-10-20 at 00:21 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: lightdm will apparently be the default dm for non-gnome DE such as XFCE, LXDE, MATE. ATM it never auto-start Orca, some code would be needed for this. So much

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
I forgot to answer this: Yves-Alexis Perez, le Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:34:22 +0200, a écrit : I guess that this is not about the user session but really about the greeter? Yes, in order to be able to login non-blindly. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-20 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
-start Orca, some code would be needed for this. So much for not starting that automatically, then. Did the plan change? ? I don't understand what you mean here. When you brought the subject on pkg-xfce list, the plan was to force installation of a11y packages (through dependency list

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-20 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On lun., 2014-10-20 at 22:42 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: I forgot to answer this: Yves-Alexis Perez, le Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:34:22 +0200, a écrit : I guess that this is not about the user session but really about the greeter? Yes, in order to be able to login non-blindly. Ok. Then I

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Yves-Alexis Perez, le Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:47:41 +0200, a écrit : On lun., 2014-10-20 at 22:42 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: I forgot to answer this: Yves-Alexis Perez, le Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:34:22 +0200, a écrit : I guess that this is not about the user session but really about the

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
for non-gnome DE such as XFCE, LXDE, MATE. ATM it never auto-start Orca, some code would be needed for this. So much for not starting that automatically, then. Did the plan change? ? I don't understand what you mean here. When you brought the subject on pkg-xfce list

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:58:14 +0200, a écrit : Yves-Alexis Perez, le Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:47:41 +0200, a écrit : On lun., 2014-10-20 at 22:42 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: I forgot to answer this: Yves-Alexis Perez, le Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:34:22 +0200, a écrit : I guess

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Getting orca started in lightdm

2014-10-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
it to the Debian package. Here is a backport of the upstream patch. It is then a matter of the orca package to define reader= (and thus allowing to start the reader by just pressing F4), and the d-i to define a11y-states=+reader. Do you feel like uploading this change for Jessie, or we'd rather go

Fwd: gnome-orca: Please update orca to 3.14.0-2

2014-10-11 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Message transféré Sujet : gnome-orca: Please update orca to 3.14.0-2 Date : Sun, 12 Oct 2014 02:11:24 +0200 De :Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu Pour : Debian Bug Tracking System 757...@bugs.debian.org Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.14.0-1

Bug#757852: gnome-orca: Restriction of the bug

2014-10-09 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Package: gnome-orca Followup-For: Bug #757852 Dear Maintainer, Hi, The only part of the bug which remains is with alt-f1. Otherwise, the bug nearly could be closed. Regards, *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation

Bug#760777: marked as done (gnome-orca: please autostart orca in LXDE, XFCE and MATE too)

2014-10-02 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 02 Oct 2014 15:39:18 + with message-id e1xzito-0008t1...@franck.debian.org and subject line Bug#760777: fixed in gnome-orca 3.14.0-1 has caused the Debian Bug report #760777, regarding gnome-orca: please autostart orca in LXDE, XFCE and MATE too to be marked as done

Orca 3.12.3 release done (was Re: LibreOffice not perfectly usable)

2014-10-01 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
would be happy to roll a new release for Debian. What's my deadline for doing so in order for Debian to pick it up? The scheduled freeze date is 5th november, and of course we need a bit of time to upload it :) I just added rolling a 3.12 release of Orca to my calendar for 1 October. I trust

Orca

2014-09-30 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, Creeze is in one month. Hence I am not sure gnome team will have the time to upload gnome 3.14 in sid and in Jessie. Does it worth to build orca 3.14 only in Jessie? Aren't there risks of misworking with Jessie packages (I mean, maybe orca 3.14 needs newer packages than available

Re: Orca

2014-09-30 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 30/09/14 07:35, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: Hi, Creeze is in one month. Hence I am not sure gnome team will have the time to upload gnome 3.14 in sid and in Jessie. Does it worth to build orca 3.14 only in Jessie? Aren't there risks of misworking with Jessie packages (I mean, maybe

Orca

2014-09-29 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, Creeze is in one month. Hence I am not sure gnome team will have the time to upload gnome 3.14 in sid and in Jessie. Does it worth to build orca 3.14 only in Jessie? Aren't there risks of misworking with Jessie packages (I mean, maybe orca 3.14 needs newer packages than available

Bug#762408: task-mate-desktop: Please add gnome-orca

2014-09-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Source: task-mate-desktop Version: 3.26 Severity: normal User: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Usertags: a11y Hello, MATE is very accessible with Orca, and as discussed in #760778, we'd like to have the screen reader ready to be enabled, so task-mate-desktop should bring gnome-orca

task-lxde-desktop: Please add gnome-orca

2014-09-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Source: task-lxde-desktop Version: 3.26 Severity: normal Hello, LXDE is quite accessible with Orca, and as discussed in #760778, we'd like to have the screen reader ready to be enabled, so task-lxde-desktop should bring gnome-orca. This increases the installed size from 1429MB to 1515MB, thus ~6

Re: Bug#760778: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Biebl
that alternative desktop environments (MATE, KDE, Cinnamon, LXDE,you name it) use other components then gnome-orca to implement a11y? Shouldn't the maintainers of those DEs be consulted if they are actually comfortable with task-desktop pulling in parts of the GNOME stack? Imho it should be up

Re: Bug#760778: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
not sure if this is the right approach. Isn't there a risk that alternative desktop environments (MATE, KDE, Cinnamon, LXDE,you name it) use other components then gnome-orca to implement a11y? There is extremely little probability that this happens. There is already little manpower to implement

Bug#760777: gnome-orca: please autostart orca in LXDE, XFCE and MATE too

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.2.2-1 Severity: important Tags: patch User: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Usertags: a11y Hello, Currently, gnome-orca does not get automatically started when e.g. enabling Enable assistive technologies in XFCE because the autostart desktop file

Re: Bug#760777: gnome-orca: please autostart orca in LXDE, XFCE and MATE too

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: forwarded -1 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736237 Control: block -1 by 760740 Samuel Thibault, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 20:48:19 +0200, a écrit : Currently, gnome-orca does not get automatically started when e.g. enabling Enable assistive technologies in XFCE because

Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: xfce4-session Version: 4.10.1-8 Severity: important User: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Usertags: a11y Hello, ATM, with a fresh XFCE installation, enabling Enable assitive technologies does not actually start the orca screen reader, because the screen reader does not get

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Yves-Alexis Perez, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 21:06:43 +0200, a écrit : ATM, with a fresh XFCE installation, enabling Enable assitive technologies does not actually start the orca screen reader, because the screen reader does not get installed along the XFCE installation. XFCE should thus depend

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
the orca screen reader, because the screen reader does not get installed along the XFCE installation. XFCE should thus depend on the gnome-orca, just like gnome depends on gnome-orca for instance. I guess xfce4-session would be the natural choice for this dependency, thus assigning

Processed: Re: Bug#760777: gnome-orca: please autostart orca in LXDE, XFCE and MATE too

2014-09-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: forwarded -1 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736237 Bug #760777 [gnome-orca] gnome-orca: please autostart orca in LXDE, XFCE and MATE too Set Bug forwarded-to-address to 'https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736237'. block -1 by 760740 Bug #760777

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Chris Norman
Sorry for the cross posting, but I thought I was posting to Accessibility before, and wasn’t: My apologies Yves-Alexis Perez, I didn’t realise I’d replied privately. I thought I was replying to the bug thread… I don’t usually reply to bug things. I’m guessing from your slightly rude replies

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim., 2014-09-07 at 20:30 +0100, Chris Norman wrote: Sorry for the cross posting, but I thought I was posting to Accessibility before, and wasn’t: My apologies Yves-Alexis Perez, I didn’t realise I’d replied privately. I thought I was replying to the bug thread… I don’t usually reply to

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
really eats a lot of disk by default, just because we can't know when one will need it because a random user happens to need it. That is the same with accessibility. I sympathise with a11y, but forcing gnome-orca on everyone won't happen. Well, that is actually precisely our goal: to have gnome

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
question was actually asking about the locale. I sympathise with a11y, but forcing gnome-orca on everyone won't happen. Well, that is actually precisely our goal: to have gnome-orca installed on all systems, ready to be started in case one needs it. Then it's unrelated to Xfce, and you

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
it because a random user happens to need it. That is the same with accessibility. Last time I did an install, a debconf question was actually asking about the locale. Sure, but it still installs mostly all translations. I sympathise with a11y, but forcing gnome-orca on everyone won't happen

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca

2014-09-07 Thread Michael Gilbert
I sympathise with a11y, but forcing gnome-orca on everyone won't happen. Well, that is actually precisely our goal: to have gnome-orca installed on all systems, ready to be started in case one needs it. Then it's unrelated to Xfce, and you want to include that in the base system

Fwd: [orca-list] Your comments on Bug 735691 - Change default Screen reader shortcut?

2014-08-29 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hey all. Below is something I sent to the Orca list earlier this evening. It occurs to me that this may be of interest to y'all, both as downstream and as a distro that ships desktop environments other than GNOME. If you have an opinion on this matter which you would like to share with upstream

Re: Upload and Orca

2014-08-26 Thread Paul Gevers
for commit rights with the link I already provide some mails ago: https://alioth.debian.org/project/request.php?group_id=30194 ? If you explain that you want it from gnome-orca and that you are active on d-a11y, I expect you get it immediately. Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: Upload and Orca

2014-08-25 Thread Mario Lang
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe mengualjean...@free.fr writes: Hi, Joanie provided 3 important patches for Orca 3.12, which are all the more useful since Debian would not upload gnome 3.14 due to delay problems. These fixes, indeed, are not really related to gnome itself, but to Orca itself, in its

Re: Upload and Orca

2014-08-25 Thread Jason White
Mario Lang ml...@debian.org wrote: I'd actually prefer for gnome-orca to do a stable point-release with the patches included. There are important changes currently being made to the Mozilla (Gecko) support, as discussed on the Orca list in recent threads. I would expect this work

Re: Upload and Orca

2014-08-25 Thread Mario Lang
Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net writes: Mario Lang ml...@debian.org wrote: I'd actually prefer for gnome-orca to do a stable point-release with the patches included. There are important changes currently being made to the Mozilla (Gecko) support, as discussed on the Orca list in recent

Re: Upload and Orca

2014-08-25 Thread Paul Gevers
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe mengualjean...@free.fr writes: Could you add debian-a11y ML to maintainers and Samuel Thibault as uploader (it seems agree). gnome-orca is already maintained by debain-a11y, so what is here to change? I suspect (but you didn't write that) that you don't have write access

Re: Upload and Orca

2014-08-25 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Le 25/08/2014 14:14, Mario Lang a écrit : Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net writes: Mario Lang ml...@debian.org wrote: I'd actually prefer for gnome-orca to do a stable point-release with the patches included. There are important changes currently being made to the Mozilla (Gecko) support

Re: Upload and Orca

2014-08-25 Thread Jason White
Mario Lang ml...@delysid.org wrote: Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net writes: Mario Lang ml...@debian.org wrote: I'd actually prefer for gnome-orca to do a stable point-release with the patches included. There are important changes currently being made to the Mozilla (Gecko) support

Re: Upload and Orca

2014-08-25 Thread Mario Lang
Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net writes: Mario Lang ml...@delysid.org wrote: Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net writes: Mario Lang ml...@debian.org wrote: I'd actually prefer for gnome-orca to do a stable point-release with the patches included. There are important changes currently

Re: Upload and Orca

2014-08-25 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, But if I am in debian-a11y alioth group, if Orca is maintained by debian-a11y, does it mean I can write in repo? Samuel needs to be uploader, as I guess he has already writing permissions in Orca, if debian-a11y group is maintainer. Regards, Le 25/08/2014 21:03, Paul Gevers a écrit

Orca, tables, Writer 4.3

2014-08-25 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, I experience orca 3.13.90 to see how fixes work. No problem for the title windows, but for Writer, it doesn't give the expected result. 1. If I move with left-right arrow keys, I never know jhen I change cell, given that Orca never tells me coordinates. To get them, only tab and shift-tab

Re: Upload and Orca

2014-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Tue 26 Aug 2014 01:53:56 +0200, a écrit : But if I am in debian-a11y alioth group, if Orca is maintained by debian-a11y, does it mean I can write in repo? No. Only people get write permissions to a group, not groups themselves. And the Maintainer field in packages

Re: Getting orca debug

2014-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Sat 23 Aug 2014 22:43:26 +0200, a écrit : Can you tell me why, on testing, if I run orca with --debug or --debug-file=file option, it doesn't generate any debug file in the current directory? AIUI, you managed to fix it? Just for the record, could you tell

Upload and Orca

2014-08-24 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, Joanie provided 3 important patches for Orca 3.12, which are all the more useful since Debian would not upload gnome 3.14 due to delay problems. These fixes, indeed, are not really related to gnome itself, but to Orca itself, in its working with other desktops or other apps. Because

Re: Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-15 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Jean-Philippe, hi MATE team, On Do 14 Aug 2014 01:39:36 CEST, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: Hi, In order to make gnome-orca speak the windows titles and the workspace numbers (cf. reported bug) on MATE desktop, could the gnome-orca maintainers add to the setting up rules of the package

Bug#757852: Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-15 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, Given that MATE can install without orca, I thought it was easier if Orca could ship this. But indeed, we could create a mate-orca sackage. But does it worth for such little difference? I can help to do it, anyway if you tell me it's really the best solution. What's the process

Re: Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-15 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Jean-Philippe, On Fr 15 Aug 2014 12:05:29 CEST, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: Hi, Given that MATE can install without orca, I thought it was easier if Orca could ship this. But indeed, we could create a mate-orca sackage. But does it worth for such little difference? I can help to do

Re: Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-15 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
On 08/15/2014 08:12 AM, Mike Gabriel wrote: Hi Jean-Philippe, On Fr 15 Aug 2014 12:05:29 CEST, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: Hi, Given that MATE can install without orca, I thought it was easier if Orca could ship this. But indeed, we could create a mate-orca sackage. But does it worth

Re: Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-15 Thread Mike Gabriel
Control: retitle -1 make Orca work with MATE DE Control: tag -1 patch Control: severity -1 important Hi Joanmarie, dear Debian Accessibility team, tagging this bug as important as it currently is discussed what default desktop environment Debian jessie should be shipped with... On Fr 15

Processed: Re: Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-15 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: retitle -1 make Orca work with MATE DE Bug #757852 [gnome-orca] accessibility: orca stays quite Changed Bug title to 'make Orca work with MATE DE' from 'accessibility: orca stays quite' tag -1 patch Bug #757852 [gnome-orca] make Orca work with MATE DE Added tag(s

Re: Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-15 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, Thanks for this patch, it's indeed cleaner than my solution. But Metacity seems to be still maintained, isn't it? I see that there is a 3.12 release in testing. What's the situation? I thought it was obsolete. If Metacity is not used anymore in Debian usefully, we can patch gnome-orca

Re: Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-15 Thread Shérab
Hi, Is it really wise to have several orca packages? Can't everything be integrated in the same one? Cheers, Shérab. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https

Re: Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-15 Thread D. A. H.
I think all fixes and enhancements should be in one orca package; minimizes confusion and should be easier to maintain. On 08/15/2014 12:39 PM, Shérab wrote: Is it really wise to have several orca packages? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-15 Thread Shérab
D. A. H. (2014/08/15 12:52 -0400): I think all fixes and enhancements should be in one orca package; minimizes confusion and should be easier to maintain. Agreed. Shérab. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Upgrading Orca?

2014-08-14 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, I see that orca 3.13 is in experimental. Could it go to sid to have a chance to be frozen in testing Jessie? I guess there're not so much differences between 3.12 and 3.13, so why wouldn't we upload to sid to test? Are there negative feedbacks? Are you aware of big sackaging consequences

Re: Upgrading Orca?

2014-08-14 Thread Jason White
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe mengualjean...@free.fr wrote: Hi, I see that orca 3.13 is in experimental. Could it go to sid to have a chance to be frozen in testing Jessie? 3.13 is not a release. It's a development version preparatory to 3.14. This isn't what you want in a forthcoming stable

Small fix in Orca packaging

2014-08-13 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, In order to make gnome-orca speak the windows titles and the workspace numbers (cf. reported bug) on MATE desktop, could the gnome-orca maintainers add to the setting up rules of the package this command? ln -s /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/scripts/apps/metacity/ /usr/lib/python3

Bug#757635: gnome-orca: Create a shortcut to set the speech volume

2014-08-09 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.12.2-1 Severity: wishlist Dear Maintainer, *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? I try to change my speech synthetiser volume. * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective

Bug#756931: gnome-orca: problem with shortcuts and keypad

2014-08-03 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Package: gnome-orca Version: 3.12.2-1 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? I experienced that orca shortcuts work if the numpad is on/off, but some customized shortcut don't work

Re: Orca out of Gnome on testing

2014-07-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, It seems the newer atk1.0 is incompatible with the older at-spi2-core, and since it wasn't announced by upstream, that wasn't expressed in Debian as a dependency. The easiest way to fix it is to upgrade libatspi2.0-0 to the unstable version: apt-get -t unstable libatspi2.0-0=2.12.0-2

Re: Orca out of Gnome on testing

2014-07-22 Thread S. Massy
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 08:27:21PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, It seems the newer atk1.0 is incompatible with the older at-spi2-core, and since it wasn't announced by upstream, that wasn't expressed in Debian as a dependency. The easiest way to fix it is to upgrade libatspi2.0-0 to

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