Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-17 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:54:28PM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: i normally boot 0 the interesting part is the clone disk boots fine on the original system, but not on either of the other systems. Same SCSI adapter? Does your clone boot if you use the *original* master disk?

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-17 Thread Michael Galloway
Moin Helge! no, thats the other interesting part, master and clone will boot systemA, where the cloneing took place, neither will boot systemB or C or ... as near as i can tell all 20 are identical, there were part of one of the earlier supercomputing efforts at the lab, all the same nodes. i

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Andrew Diller
Can someone tell me the difference between sarge and sid? I thought the current debian was woody. -andy On Jul 15, 2004, at 8:45 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:13:41PM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: Hi Andrew! there is a build out from yesterday:

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:25:19AM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: Can someone tell me the difference between sarge and sid? I thought the current debian was woody. sarge is the upcoming stable release. sid is the staging ground for everything that will go into the stable release being developed

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Galloway
Hi Steve! ok, so what is the real functional difference? -- michael On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Steve Langasek wrote: sarge is the upcoming stable release. sid is the staging ground for everything that will go into the stable release being developed at any given moment.

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 08:40:00AM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: Hi Steve! ok, so what is the real functional difference? Stable (Woody at the moment): A bit dated, but very well tested and security support available. Testing (Sarge at the moment):

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Joerg Hoh
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 07:44:53PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:07:48PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: I don't see anything new at: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/ will the build happen today, as in before 2400 EST? Yes; and it's

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Galloway
ok, i'm getting myself very confused and maybe some one can give me a sanity check. i have a number of ES40's i'm putting sarge onto. i have it installed and working fairly well. now i'm trying to clone the disk image for the rest of the ES40's, this is what i'm trying: SystemA: good install

RE: [debian terminology] newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Cernese, Dan
To: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000 On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:25:19AM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: Can someone tell me the difference between sarge and sid? I thought the current debian was woody. sarge is the upcoming stable release. sid

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:59:23AM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: SystemA: good install of sarge onto /dev/sda, sda is 128M free space, 16G ext2 mounted on / , 2GB swap. to clone the disk i'm doing: init 1, swapoff -a, mount -n -o remount,ro / dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1024k

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Michael, On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:18:53PM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: Moin Helge! i get the normalish looking: 0:2/vmlinuz ro initrd=/initrd.imb root=/dev/sda2 1:2/vmlinuz.old initrd=/initrd.img 2:3/vmlinuz.net.gz ro root=/dev/sda2 3:3/vmlinuz ro root=/ev/sda2 8:- ro

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Galloway
Moin Helge! maybe typos in there, the system is on serial console so i copied from my notes ... i normally boot 0 the interesting part is the clone disk boots fine on the original system, but not on either of the other systems. -- michael Helge Kreutzmann schrieb am Freitag, den 16. Juli

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 08:43:01AM -0400, Rob Dupcak wrote: Do the daily builds have Tulip driver support? (Or will they?) Daily builds have included the tulip driver for as long as there have been daily builds on alpha. Or asked another way... Is there an easy way of telling if a specific

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 08:40:00AM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: Hi Steve! ok, so what is the real functional difference? That depends on what's being staged at any particular moment. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Steve Langasek wrote: sarge is the

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 03:55:25PM +0200, Joerg Hoh wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 07:44:53PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:07:48PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: I don't see anything new at: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/ will the

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Joerg Hoh
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 01:08:28PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 03:55:25PM +0200, Joerg Hoh wrote: I tried the netinst-Version from 15th of Juli. The problem with the broken cia_core seems still to exist; Correct, no kernel-image package has been uploaded which

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 11:15:24PM +0200, Joerg Hoh wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 01:08:28PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 03:55:25PM +0200, Joerg Hoh wrote: I tried the netinst-Version from 15th of Juli. The problem with the broken cia_core seems still to exist;

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-16 Thread Joerg Hoh
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 02:40:00PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 11:15:24PM +0200, Joerg Hoh wrote: Is the patch for this problem available as a diff, so I can patch the kernel myself? kernel-image packages have previously been posted to the mailing list, but this

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Aneesh Kumar K.V
Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:07:49PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: I used the one at: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/current/ but I'll try again and leave some space at the top of the disk for aboot. What does it need, a few megs? Less than 1MB. A

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Andrew Diller
Thanks for the tips, I'll try the build from 6/15 then. On Jul 14, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: You may also want to wait until tomorrow's daily, as it turns out the sid_d-i dailies for alpha have been off-line for the better part of a month and I'm not sure of the status of the last

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:39:28AM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:07:49PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: I used the one at: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/current/ but I'll try again and leave some space at the top of

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Rob Dupcak
Hi, Do the daily builds have Tulip driver support? (Or will they?) Or asked another way... Is there an easy way of telling if a specific daily build has a particular feature? (Aside from trying to install it yet again?) Thanks, Rob Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:36:49PM -0400,

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Andrew Diller
I don't see anything new at: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/ will the build happen today, as in before 2400 EST? -andy On Jul 14, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: You may also want to wait until tomorrow's daily, as it turns out the sid_d-i dailies for alpha have

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Michael Galloway
Hi Andrew! there is a build out from yesterday: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/alpha/20040714/ -- me On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Andrew Diller wrote: I don't see anything new at: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/ will the build happen today,

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:07:48PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: I don't see anything new at: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/ will the build happen today, as in before 2400 EST? Yes; and it's there now. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer On Jul 14, 2004, at

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:13:41PM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: Hi Andrew! there is a build out from yesterday: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/alpha/20040714/ But built against the sarge tree, not the sid tree. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer On Thu, 15

newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-14 Thread Andrew Diller
hello: I downloaded burned and installed the newest (2004-06-08 posted on alphalinux.org) debian installer on my xp1000. Everything is smooth, i chose an automatic, multi-user partition map on a single 9gig scsi disk. I changed the / partition to ext2 for the aboot and continued. however,

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 03:44:04PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: hello: I downloaded burned and installed the newest (2004-06-08 posted on alphalinux.org) debian installer on my xp1000. Everything is smooth, i chose an automatic, multi-user partition map on a single 9gig scsi disk. I changed

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-14 Thread Michael Galloway
Hi Andrew! i've better success on my ES40's with the 20040713 build: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/alpha/ still somewhat problematic, it installs e100 instead of eepro100, but it may work ok for you ... -- michael On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Andrew Diller wrote: hello: I

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-14 Thread Andrew Diller
I used the one at: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/current/ but I'll try again and leave some space at the top of the disk for aboot. What does it need, a few megs? -andy On Jul 14, 2004, at 4:08 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: What is the URL of the ISO image you downloaded?

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:07:49PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: I used the one at: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/alpha/current/ but I'll try again and leave some space at the top of the disk for aboot. What does it need, a few megs? Less than 1MB. A single sector

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-14 Thread Andrew Diller
OK I try with one meg free. I actually have 2 xp1000s, one I'll use for a more stable machine with beta4, the other I can test the dailies and see what's up. So far Sarge looks nice. It's been a few years since I played with Debian, mostly it was on my Ipaq. I am thinking of using this alpha

Re: newest debian-installer on XP1000

2004-07-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:36:49PM -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: OK I try with one meg free. I actually have 2 xp1000s, one I'll use for a more stable machine with beta4, the other I can test the dailies and see what's up. Please note that there is no substantial difference between beta4 and