On Sunday 28 June 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
I have no idea what the difference between Netherlands and
Netherlands - Standard is. Such problems have to be reported
upstream.
There are a fair number of differences between those two variants in
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nl,
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
Eh, I *am* an NL person... I thought I'd already made my comments clear
and explained the Dutch situation. Both in this thread and the BR from
Kurt about Altgr (#524235).
1) Some time ago I set the default in c-s for NL to 'us' (r58049).
2) Origin as
Hello,
Frans Pop, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 09:09:20 +0200, a écrit :
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21046
Could NL people comment on the bug?
Eh, I *am* an NL person...
I know.
I thought I'd already made my comments clear and explained the Dutch
situation.
I know the situation.
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
I know the situation. What I'm talking about is this:
3) Both Dutch keymaps and American English keymaps are in use, but
the Dutch ones are a relatively small minority.
4) If one of the variants currently listed under Netherlands really
is
Frans Pop, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 13:00:19 +0200, a écrit :
BTW, I would expect there are people in NL using Dvorak, but it's not
being offered as a choice there...
Because xkb doesn't have that layout.
5) Dutch people very much *do* still type accented characters.
ERrr, really? That's not
Samuel Thibault, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 11:59:26 +0200, a écrit :
Another way I had thought about would be to first show a list of all
the keyboards known to be used by the combination of country/language
given at the localechooser stage,
Note: there is enough information in xkb-data to achieve
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Frans Pop, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 13:00:19 +0200, a ?crit :
BTW, I would expect there are people in NL using Dvorak, but it's not
being offered as a choice there...
Because xkb doesn't have that layout.
Do you mean that xkb has a _separate_ layout
On Sunday 28 June 2009, you wrote:
Now _that_ I could understand. The origin question should really only
be displayed if someone chooses other from the country-specific
variant list.
But even then I find the origin prompt confusing, especially because
people are used to selecting a layout
(resending for proper threading)
On Sunday 28 June 2009, you wrote:
Now _that_ I could understand. The origin question should really only
be displayed if someone chooses other from the country-specific
variant list.
But even then I find the origin prompt confusing, especially because
people
Frans Pop, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 13:45:33 +0200, a écrit :
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Frans Pop, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 13:00:19 +0200, a ?crit :
BTW, I would expect there are people in NL using Dvorak, but it's not
being offered as a choice there...
Because xkb doesn't
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
In that case there really _should_ be a Netherlands - Dvorak layout
as well.
If someone could implement the dutch dvorak, sure. Remember that dvorak
is per-language. You can always use the english dvorak for Dutch, but
that's not efficient.
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Colin Watson wrote:
I think we should stop asking this question entirely. Hardly anyone
really needs anything other than pc105, except for the Brazilian and
Japanese cases that can be derived automatically from the keyboard
layout anyway.
How appropriate is pc105 as a
Frans Pop, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 14:36:25 +0200, a écrit :
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
In that case there really _should_ be a Netherlands - Dvorak layout
as well.
If someone could implement the dutch dvorak, sure. Remember that dvorak
is per-language. You can always
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In followup to Frans' review, please find here my current thoughts
about possible ways to greatly simplify things when configuring
console-setup *in D-I* as well as greatly reduce the size impact.
The general idea would be *selecting* a number of model|layout|variant
that are well suited with
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
One of the release goals of Debian Installer for squeeze is dropping
the use of console-data keyboard mappings, to replace them by
console-setup [1].
Here are (finally) the results of my tests. Sorry
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
Holger and Christian have already started the reviews for the next two
years: 2004 and 2005.
Detailed info is available from:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SpamClean
Small update:
2005 has been processed by Holger Wansing and myself (plus
Hello Luk,
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Luk Claesl...@debian.org wrote:
If it's binNMU safe, we could try a binNMU, otherwise it's best to
either do a porter NMU if possible or a sourceful upload otherwise.
Yeah, binNMU ought to work fine. Please go ahead with that.
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Hello,
Christian Perrier, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 19:43:01 +0200, a écrit :
The general rule would then be: one language, one layoutwith
exceptions when established practice needs them.
I'd even say, one language/country, one layout. Note for instance
french, for which there are a lot of
Otavio Salvador wrote:
Hello Luk,
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Luk Claesl...@debian.org wrote:
If it's binNMU safe, we could try a binNMU, otherwise it's best to
either do a porter NMU if possible or a sourceful upload otherwise.
Yeah, binNMU ought to work fine. Please go ahead with
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 01:00:19PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
I would just call it the American English layout versus the Dutch
layout. After all, that's what they are.
And you'd probably need to offer some additional choices:
- American English layout with € on 5 key
- American English layout
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 03:05:22PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Colin Watson wrote:
I think we should stop asking this question entirely. Hardly anyone
really needs anything other than pc105, except for the Brazilian and
Japanese cases that can be derived automatically
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