Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-27 Thread Joey Hess
Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Okay, in that case, I strongly disagree. That would be like saying the efforts to get it working until now are worthless. No, it would simply be a statement of fact. If d-i cannot be made to support oldworld powerpc in time for etch despite everyone's work, then it makes

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:33:31PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Okay, in that case, I strongly disagree. That would be like saying the efforts to get it working until now are worthless. No, it would simply be a statement of fact. If d-i cannot be made to support oldworld

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-27 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:33:31PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Okay, in that case, I strongly disagree. That would be like saying the efforts to get it working until now are worthless. No, it would simply be a statement of fact. If d-i cannot be made to support oldworld

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-20 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Aurélien GÉRÔME 2006-08-19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On a side note, I am also fscked up in NM without even starting, because someone in the Front Desk seems to dislike me, even though I maintain 11 packages in Debian, so there is really no hurry... I think you mean even though I only started

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-20 Thread Rick Thomas
Well... That's interesting news. And I'm glad you're having success with your system. But, unfortunately, the bottom line for this bug report is still that nobody has yet succeeded in getting the 2.6.16 kernel to boot under BootX. Keep in touch. I'll be particularly interested in

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 18 August 2006 22:49, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:56:52PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Do you think it will be ready for inclusion in etch at release time? Hard to say, since Piotr and I have no deadline... :) I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you mean,

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
Hi, On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 01:30:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: On Friday 18 August 2006 22:49, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:56:52PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Do you think it will be ready for inclusion in etch at release time? Hard to say, since Piotr and I have

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Aurélien, please don't cc: me - I'm subscribed to both lists, it's against the mailing lists code of conduct (something you agree on when joining debian..) and it's annoying. Thanks. On Saturday 19 August 2006 14:05, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you mean,

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:15:21PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: please don't cc: me - I'm subscribed to both lists, it's against the mailing lists code of conduct (something you agree on when joining debian..) and it's annoying. Thanks. Sure, no problem and I apologise, which leads me to: how

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 19 August 2006 14:05, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: I did not mean it is low priority. ;) I meant we are not paid Canonical employees to do a job following a timeline. Not sure what this has to do with things as practically nobody on this project is employed by Canonical. I know I'm

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:15:21PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: I am also really afraid to interact with Frans, because I would rather not be treated as dipshit like Sven was. :( Frans is a nice guy. Just don't constantly throw dipshit like Sven did and neither Frans nor anybody else will

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 19 August 2006 16:17, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Sure, no problem and I apologise, which leads me to: how would I know you are subscribed? ;) Thanks for caring! :) Of course you cannot know if someone is subscribed. But you can know that the default is not to cc: people and

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 05:21:50PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Why don't you try interacting with me before making assumptions? I have explained the reasons why Sven was removed from the project often enough and also that it was _not_ because of personal dislike. For someone who had no personal

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Harold Johnson
Does anyone know of an online tutorial, designed for laymen, on how to install and use miBoot? I'm tech-savvy but somewhat obtuse when it comes to compiling and all that, but I can get through the task (which is kind of fun, actually) once I have enough of a starting point. Unfortunately, I'm not

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
Hi, On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 03:19:18AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Has *anybody* had any success getting the Linux version 2.6.16-2- powerpc (Debian 2.6.16-17) kernel to boot an OldWorld machine with BootX? Or *any* kernel after 2.6.15? I think the anwser is plainly no. :( Well, you would

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 7:59 AM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Hi, On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 03:19:18AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Has *anybody* had any success getting the Linux version 2.6.16-2- powerpc (Debian 2.6.16-17) kernel to boot an OldWorld machine with BootX? Or *any* kernel after 2.6.15? I

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:44:23AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Perhaps the Debian PTBs should simply admit that PowerPC OldWorld Macintosh is an unsupported sub-arch for Debian etch? /-8 What is PTBs? :) Well, aside the issue of booting, the kernel runs just fine and so does the user

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: What is PTBs? :) Powers that be...

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Well, aside the issue of booting, the kernel runs just fine and so does the user space... As you can look at http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata, I think it is partially admitted in Oldworld powerpc boot floppies will not

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 03:06:03PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: I don't think the errata takes any notice of the fact that, quite independent of freeness considerations, there is *no* working boot loader for the 2.6.16 kernel on an OldWorld Mac. I've tried both bootx and quik and neither

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:56:52PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Do you think it will be ready for inclusion in etch at release time? Hard to say, since Piotr and I have no deadline... :) Cheers, -- .''`. Aurélien GÉRÔME : :' : `. `'` Free Software Developer `- Unix Sys Net Admin

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:52:24PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: What is PTBs? :) Powers that be... On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:44:23AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Perhaps the Debian PTBs should simply admit that PowerPC OldWorld Macintosh is an

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:58:07PM +0200, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:52:24PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: What is PTBs? :) Powers that be... On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:44:23AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Perhaps the

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 12:18:23AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:58:07PM +0200, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:52:24PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: What is PTBs? :) Powers that be... On Fri,

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:52:24PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: What is PTBs? :) Powers that be... On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:44:23AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Perhaps the Debian PTBs

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 12:18:23AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:58:07PM +0200, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:52:24PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote:

Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-13 Thread Rick Thomas
I just tried the etch Beta3 kernel on my Beige G3 OldWorld PowerPC Macintosh. Same results as noted in the original bugreport by this number. It hangs almost immediately. The picture of Tux never appears at the top of the screen. See the original bug report for details. Seriously,