Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 12:05:19PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.06.19.0208 +0200]: Changing the bootloader installers in d-i now to accept symlinks either in / or in /boot (i.e. to be strictly more tolerant) would make some sense; but it

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-19 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 02:11:12AM +0200, Osamu Aoki wrote: With newer BIOS and newer Lilo and grub, this may not be the issue. It is if you want to have / on LVM, Soft-RAID5 or similar. Bastian -- Only a fool fights in a burning house. -- Kank the Klingon, Day of the Dove,

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.06.19.1135 +0200]: It is if you want to have / on LVM, Soft-RAID5 or similar. A symlink is not going to fix that. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.06.19.0208 +0200]: How about we futz with this sort of thing near the beginning of a release cycle, not near the end? Yeah, but that would actually be productive. We wouldn't want that. I was on a rampage last night. I agree that it should not

symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread martin f krafft
Fellow Debianistas, Why does Debian drop symlinks to vmlinuz and initrd.gz into the root directory? The FHS does allow it (after all), but it's butt-ugly, if you ask me. Can we please use the upcoming release to clean this issue up? It would require the following, I think: - change the

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Martin F Krafft] Why does Debian drop symlinks to vmlinuz and initrd.gz into the root directory? The FHS does allow it (after all), but it's butt-ugly, if you ask me. I do not care much about its uglyness, but it can also be a problem when using grub and having /boot/ on a separate partition.

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 15:43, martin f krafft wrote: Fellow Debianistas, Why does Debian drop symlinks to vmlinuz and initrd.gz into the root directory? The FHS does allow it (after all), but it's butt-ugly, if you ask me. Because /vmunix is the traditional location of the kernel on Unix and

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 04:00:06PM -0500, Adam Thornton wrote: Because /vmunix is the traditional location of the kernel on Unix and Unix-like systems? *BSD have there kernel in /, but most others don't. Bastian -- You can't evaluate a man by logic alone. -- McCoy, I, Mudd,

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Martin F Krafft] Why does Debian drop symlinks to vmlinuz and initrd.gz into the root directory? The FHS does allow it (after all), but it's butt-ugly, if you ask me. I do not care much about its uglyness, but it can also be a problem when using grub and

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:23:00 +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: OTOH, the linux kernel uses this scheme for a very log time now. Deviating from it will break make oldconfig dep install modules_install style upgrades from upstream sources. Wrong. make install is tuned to /boot/{vmlinuz,System.map}, or

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.06.18.2323 +0200]: OTOH, the linux kernel uses this scheme for a very log time now. Deviating from it will break make oldconfig dep install modules_install style upgrades from upstream sources. Uh, if I do 'make bzimage', then the kernel

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.06.18.2300 +0200]: Because /vmunix is the traditional location of the kernel on Unix and Unix-like systems? Exactly, which is not enough of a reason to have it their still. Or what's a /boot for? -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists;

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.06.18.2249 +0200]: I do not care much about its uglyness, but it can also be a problem when using grub and having /boot/ on a separate partition. If /boot is on a separate partition, then the symlink has no purpose anyway. If /boot is

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread Thiemo Seufer
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.06.18.2323 +0200]: OTOH, the linux kernel uses this scheme for a very log time now. Deviating from it will break make oldconfig dep install modules_install style upgrades from upstream sources. Uh, if I do 'make

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Joshua Kwan wrote: On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:23:00 +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: OTOH, the linux kernel uses this scheme for a very log time now. Deviating from it will break make oldconfig dep install modules_install style upgrades from upstream sources. Wrong. make install is tuned to

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 01:16:15AM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.06.18.2323 +0200]: OTOH, the linux kernel uses this scheme for a very log time now. Deviating from it will break make oldconfig dep install

Re: symlinks in /boot vs. symlinks in /

2004-06-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 10:43:00PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Why does Debian drop symlinks to vmlinuz and initrd.gz into the root directory? The FHS does allow it (after all), but it's butt-ugly, if you ask me. Can we please use the upcoming release to clean this issue up? How about we