On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 03:20:49AM +0100, Anthony F McInerney wrote:
Would the people who are claiming that blank cdr are cheaper than dvdr,
especially in third world countries, please cite sources (shops, price
checkers etc) of the price of say 5 pack or 10 pack, even up to 50pack of
CD's, vs
On Mon, 11 Aug, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Thomas Weber twe...@debian.org
wrote:
Not sure why you'd want to go for third world countries, but let's
look
at Germany (Aldi is one of the two biggest discounters here):
Package: installation-reports
Severity: important
Dear Maintainer,
the modules on the debian mirrors for the sparc architecture (wheezy) did not
match
the kernel in the current wheezy netboot image.
Finaly found that
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
retitle 757711 netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface
Bug #757711 [debian-installer] DHCP client shutdown right after network
detection (Hyper-V VM)
Changed Bug title to 'netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface'
at bottom :-
On 8/11/14, Thomas Weber twe...@debian.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 03:20:49AM +0100, Anthony F McInerney wrote:
Would the people who are claiming that blank cdr are cheaper than dvdr,
especially in third world countries, please cite sources (shops, price
checkers etc) of
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-11):
retitle 757711 netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface
reassign 757711 src:netcfg
found 757711 netcfg/1.118
severity 757711 grave
user debian-...@lists.debian.org
usertags 757711 + kfreebsd
thanks
Steve, if you want to
retitle 757711 netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface
reassign 757711 src:netcfg
found 757711 netcfg/1.118
severity 757711 grave
user debian-...@lists.debian.org
usertags 757711 + kfreebsd
thanks
Hi,
On 11/08/14 08:18, Jan Henke wrote:
[...] DHCP client terminating directly
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:15:15AM +0200, Thomas Weber wrote:
Not sure why you'd want to go for third world countries, but let's look
at Germany (Aldi is one of the two biggest discounters here):
http://www.presseportal.de/pm/112096/2653870/aldi-senkt-preise-fuer-fischprodukte-oel-und-smoothies
Package: partman-lvm
Version: 91
After the parted API change and fixes, I ran into a new problem when
testing Debian Edu based on Jessie. The installation hang and the log
report that something is waiting on a prompt. I normally test in a
virtual machine, and reuse the hard drive every time.
Package: debootstrap
Version: 1.0.60
Severity: normal
After a foreign deboostrap, the second stage failed:
dpkg: regarding .../systemd-sysv_208-7_armhf.deb containing systemd-sysv,
pre-dependency problem:
systemd-sysv pre-depends on systemd
systemd is unpacked, but has never been configured.
Hi,
Lennart Sorensen:
it needs buttons on windows that people expect to see where they expect
to see them
You mean left vs. right side?
Would Debian be willing to make gnome3 have different defaults than
upstream in the interest of actually being useable to new users who are
used to other
Quoting David Weinehall (2014-08-10 22:59:45)
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
The issue here really is how big is it? rather than hos many disks
[of which kind] does it fit onto?.
unable to fit on a single image is not only about use of said
storage
Quoting Olav Vitters (2014-08-11 11:21:14)
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quite a few places in the World have poor and/or expensive internet
access. Larger default desktop will hurt the most in developing
countries: non-techies gets discourages to use
2014/08/12 1:12 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk:
[...]
Still you are talking about cost in time. Few I have met in developing
countries were poor measured in time available.
[...]
Developed country (Japan). My wife makes me scrimp on everything, so I
still have megabit/sec download. Fiber or
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:23:38AM +0001, Anthony F McInerney wrote:
And if it's machines in the wild with CD drives still again, we
have woody, squeeze and wheezy for them.
Does woody still have security support? In not, there are many old
machines for which it is no longer an
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 03:20 +0100, Anthony F McInerney wrote:
[...]
If people have old CD only machines i would not like to attempt to get
kernel 3.16 +drivers +userland working on that. I've been in that
situation plenty of times, where woody or potato are better simply
because the drivers
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 05:34:04PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
You mean left vs. right side?
Or even showing them at all (certainly last time I bothered to look at
gnome 3 it seemed to think buttons on windows were mostly to be avoided).
People who are so afraid of new stuff to learn that
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:00:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I do: I see a reason to netinst a 0.629xCD size desktop install rather
than a 0.829xCD size desktop when bandwidth is costly.
Yes, but if you netinst you can *pick* your desktop, it's not like you
have to pick the default. Do a
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 01:35:28PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
All I personally expect from a window manager is:
Be able to launch programs (ideally using alt+F2)
Available in GNOME 3.
Be able to resize the window using the edge of the window
Available in GNOME 3.
Have a
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 01:35:28PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 05:34:04PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Or even showing them at all (certainly last time I bothered to look at
gnome 3 it seemed to think buttons on windows were mostly to be avoided).
People who
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:42:41PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
Available in GNOME 3.
Available in GNOME 3.
Not enabled by default (if I remember correctly), but possible to enable
using gnome-tweak-tool.
I shouldn't have to know that. And I am pretty sure when gnome3 appeared
in sid,
How do you measure memory? Free?
Could you quite possibly post the output of free and whatever else you
measure with? (the full output)
For reference against jessie, i'm installing an up to date jessie right
now...
Thanks
Anthony (bofh80)
On Lu, 11 aug 14, 19:38:47, David Weinehall wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:00:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I do: I see a reason to netinst a 0.629xCD size desktop install rather
than a 0.829xCD size desktop when bandwidth is costly.
Yes, but if you netinst you can *pick* your
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-08-10):
Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal
As part of the transition plan to switch the default init system to
system for Jessie, the priorities of the sysvinit and sysvinit-core
package were lowered. See also [1]
Please change them to
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 01:47:53PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:42:41PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
Available in GNOME 3.
Available in GNOME 3.
Not enabled by default (if I remember correctly), but possible to enable
using gnome-tweak-tool.
I
Hi KiBi,
Am 11.08.2014 21:58, schrieb Cyril Brulebois:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-08-10):
Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal
As part of the transition plan to switch the default init system to
system for Jessie, the priorities of the sysvinit and sysvinit-core
package were
Am 11.08.2014 22:31, schrieb Michael Biebl:
Hi KiBi,
Am 11.08.2014 21:58, schrieb Cyril Brulebois:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-08-10):
Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal
As part of the transition plan to switch the default init system to
system for Jessie, the priorities
Michael Biebl em...@michaelbiebl.de (2014-08-11):
Am 11.08.2014 21:58, schrieb Cyril Brulebois:
It really would have been nice to put debian-boot@ in the loop though.
Changing init when we're in the middle of trying to release d-i isn't
really something that has no consequences…
Your
Am 11.08.2014 22:51, schrieb Cyril Brulebois:
Michael Biebl em...@michaelbiebl.de (2014-08-11):
Your second mail:
Btw, since init still pulls in sysvinit-core atm, lowering the
severity of sysvinit and sysvinit-core shouldn't have an effect for
d-i.
If it does, could you elaborate, what
Package: debian-installer
Version: 20140802
Severity: normal
Dear Maintainer,
* What led up to the situation?
Try to install Debian Testing with current network-iso. Select wlan0 as network
interface (Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 (ath_9k module ?)) and connect to your WPA-
secured wlan / wifi
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-08-11):
That is
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754987
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg01509.html
I know a workaround, but haven't figured out the underlying cause yet.
FWIW I spent some time on #debian-systemd and idly
Hi Lars,
and thanks for your report.
Lars Cebulla lars.c...@gmail.com (2014-08-11):
Package: debian-installer
Version: 20140802
Severity: normal
Dear Maintainer,
* What led up to the situation?
Try to install Debian Testing with current network-iso. Select wlan0 as
network
Am 11.08.2014 23:15, schrieb Cyril Brulebois:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-08-11):
A minimal installation should still pull sysvinit-core as it is the
first alternative in init.
Since that's not happening I'm going to guess that systemd-sysv's
priority being higher than
Package: pkgsel
Version: 0.42
Severity: normal
Hello,
This is a problem only with the test frontend, used by our speech
synthesizer version. This can be tested easily by booting the installer
with the Install with speech synthesis boot entry.
Right after answering the Software selection tasksel
2014-08-11 23:32 GMT+02:00 Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org:
Am 11.08.2014 23:15, schrieb Cyril Brulebois:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-08-11):
A minimal installation should still pull sysvinit-core as it is the
first alternative in init.
Since that's not happening I'm going to guess
Control: found -1 netcfg/1.117
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-08-11):
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-11):
retitle 757711 netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface
reassign 757711 src:netcfg
found 757711 netcfg/1.118
severity 757711 grave
Eeww, I
Processing control commands:
found -1 netcfg/1.117
Bug #757711 [src:netcfg] netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface
Marked as found in versions netcfg/1.117.
--
757711: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757711
Debian Bug Tracking System
Contact
XFCE:
total used free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:506756 362468 144288 6568 22756 179264
-/+ buffers/cache: 160448 346308
Swap: 392188 0 392188
GNOME:
total used free shared
Hi people,
two parts in this mail: information for everyone, and action for
debian-cd@ at the end.
Bits of infomation:
---
Thanks to Colin's last parted upload, partitioning is in a much better
shape now. I've successfully tested the following things using an i386
netinstall
Are we really comparing RAM here as if it were the 90's? How many people
here use Android? Today it needs 512 MB to function properly. In two years
that could be 1 or 2 GB and that's a mobile OS. How much RAM does your
browser use? My Chrome/Firefox easily uses 1 GB. My GNOME 3.10 desktop
(running
' selected
Aug 11 23:47:15 netcfg[1872]: INFO: Starting netcfg v.1.108+deb7u1 (built
20140811-2124)
Aug 11 23:47:15 netcfg[1872]: INFO: Taking down interface em0
Aug 11 23:47:15 netcfg[1872]: INFO: Taking down interface lo0
Aug 11 23:47:15 netcfg[1872]: INFO: Activating interface em0
Aug 11 23:47:15
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
found 757711 1.108+deb7u1
Bug #757711 [src:netcfg] netcfg: promptly kills dhclient, deconfigures interface
Marked as found in versions netcfg/1.108+deb7u1.
thanks
Stopping processing here.
Please contact me if you need assistance.
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757711:
AFAICT so far:
* netcfg kills the running DHCP client after a hostname is set - this
could be a bug
* on kFreeBSD, isc-dhcp-client-udeb is used; killing it releases the
DHCP lease and deconfigures the interface, which could be intentional
* on Linux, Busybox udhcpc is used, killing it seems to
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-12):
found 757711 1.108+deb7u1
thanks
On 11/08/14 23:57, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
found 757711 netcfg/1.118
severity 757711 grave
Eeww, I missed that.
Sorry, assumed you'd seen this... though I did feel the severity was
justified
I hope someone can explain the intent of the code below from netcfg:
why are DHCP clients killed here? Is it to avoid them clobbering a
manual hostname/domain setting? And is that really an issue in
practice, with whatever DHCP client[s] we use now?
The other thing is, the whole idea of DHCP is
On 12 August 2014 01:03, Kees de Jong keesdej...@gmail.com wrote:
Are we really comparing RAM here as if it were the 90's?
I had stated previously XFCE had started showing memory usage similar to
gnome. This has quite obviously changed. I was wrong, and i'm posting it as
a correction to my
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 02:03:39AM +0200, Kees de Jong wrote:
Are we really comparing RAM here as if it were the 90's? How many people
here use Android? Today it needs 512 MB to function properly. In two years
that could be 1 or 2 GB and that's a mobile OS. How much RAM does your
browser use?
[Matthias Klumpp]
However, d-i has some issues there (insserv loop, which nobody was
able to resolve yet) - we are not really sure about the cause yet,
Got any details on the insserv loop? Perhaps I can help? Do
/usr/share/insserv/check-initd-order report anything useful?
BTW: I get
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