Re: Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org (2014-08-19): While I don't have a definitive opinion on the ordering of the menu choices, I definitively think amd64 should be picked by default on amd64 architectures. Especially since multiarch, there's no good reason left for installing i386 on

Re: Use dedicated partition for /boot/grub instead of /boot

2014-08-19 Thread Joel Rees
2014/08/18 14:57 Christopher Chavez 2000...@gmail.com: (Please let me know if there's a better venue for collecting feedback for this idea, or additional ones I should solicit feedback from. I primarily use Ubuntu, but I assume this is as upstream as it gets.) Upstream relative to what? Boot

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Brian Potkin
On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 23:07:11 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: I have prepared a patch for this (attached) and I would like to receive some thoughts on it. I have added Samuel Thibault in CC, since he has also some knowledge and interest on the d-i manual. Basically I moved the chapter

Bug#742485: debian-installer: debian-testing-amd64-gnome-CD1.iso installs XFCE

2014-08-19 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
Package: debian-installer Followup-For: Bug #742485 Dear Maintainer, I tested installing from debian-testing-amd64-CD-1.iso obtained at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/, expecting the Gnome desktop to be installed. This image was dated 2014-08-18 08:52, MD5 sum

Bug#742485: debian-installer: debian-testing-amd64-gnome-CD1.iso installs XFCE

2014-08-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:07:17AM -0500, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: Package: debian-installer Followup-For: Bug #742485 Dear Maintainer, I tested installing from debian-testing-amd64-CD-1.iso obtained at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/, expecting the Gnome desktop to

Bug#742485: debian-installer: debian-testing-amd64-gnome-CD1.iso installs XFCE

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Fabian, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.org (2014-08-19): Package: debian-installer Followup-For: Bug #742485 Dear Maintainer, I tested installing from debian-testing-amd64-CD-1.iso obtained at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/, expecting the Gnome

Bug#742485: debian-installer: debian-testing-amd64-gnome-CD1.iso installs XFCE

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-08-19): Hi Fabian, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.org (2014-08-19): Package: debian-installer Followup-For: Bug #742485 Dear Maintainer, I tested installing from debian-testing-amd64-CD-1.iso obtained at

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Brian Potkin claremont...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 23:07:11 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: I have prepared a patch for this (attached) and I would like to receive some thoughts on it. I have added Samuel Thibault in CC, since he has also some knowledge and interest

Re: Use dedicated partition for /boot/grub instead of /boot

2014-08-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:45:03PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: 2014/08/18 14:57 Christopher Chavez 2000...@gmail.com: Questions: 1. Is it the case that the only reason for having a separate /boot was to provide easy access /boot/grub? I.e., was it intentional to provide easy access to

Re: Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Joey Hess
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Now, the ideal would be to use syslinux' ifcpu/ifcpu64 c32 modules to determine the menu order depending on the machine (see [0]): no 64 bit option on 32 bit machines, hidden or down the menu 32 bit option on 64 bit-capable machines. This used to be the case via

Bug#640789: Crash on folder name with spaces

2014-08-19 Thread Stephen Kitt
Hi KiBi, On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 03:56:21AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Modestas Vainius mo...@debian.org (2013-12-29): thanks for the patch but I'm not convinced, see below: --- a/debian/iso-scan.postinst +++ b/debian/iso-scan.postinst @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@ scan_device_for_isos() {

Bug#640789: Crash on folder name with spaces

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Stephen , Stephen Kitt sk...@debian.org (2014-08-19): On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 03:56:21AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Modestas Vainius mo...@debian.org (2013-12-29): thanks for the patch but I'm not convinced, see below: --- a/debian/iso-scan.postinst +++

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Brian Potkin
On Tue 19 Aug 2014 at 17:39:18 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: Brian Potkin claremont...@gmail.com wrote: Defaulting to a graphical (gtk) frontend on i386 and amd64 would mean that it becomes the regular frontend, unless it is desired to credit the newt frontend with some special status.

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Holger Wansing hwans...@mailbox.org (2014-08-19): Hi, Brian Potkin claremont...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 23:07:11 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: I have prepared a patch for this (attached) and I would like to receive some thoughts on it. I have added Samuel

Re: Plan of action for Secure Boot support

2014-08-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2014-08-14 at 23:38 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: [...] 1. Colin Watson will prepare dak changes to support upload and subsequent signing of EFI executables. (This is an embedded, not detached, signature.) 2. Steve Langasek will prepare and upload a package of the 'shim' EFI

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org wrote: Holger Wansing hwans...@mailbox.org (2014-08-19): Hi, Brian Potkin claremont...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 23:07:11 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: I have prepared a patch for this (attached) and I would like to receive

Re: Plan of action for Secure Boot support

2014-08-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 01:38:44PM -0700, Ben Hutchings wrote: So far as I know, no progress has been made on the above steps or any alternate approach. Ditto, I've not seen (or done) anything about this. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com

Re: Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 02:02:17PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Now, the ideal would be to use syslinux' ifcpu/ifcpu64 c32 modules to determine the menu order depending on the machine (see [0]): no 64 bit option on 32 bit machines, hidden or down the menu 32 bit option

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 01:17:02AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: [ Adding -accessibility@ and -cd@ to the loop. ] Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-08-17): On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Control: tag -1 confirmed Another issue is that it requires much

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-08-19): or do we split things even more? That menu is already too long, and causes scrolling for people to see the lower options (if they realise such a thing is possible!). How about we split things up some more, assuming we can get the auto-detect to

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:58:27PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-08-19): or do we split things even more? That menu is already too long, and causes scrolling for people to see the lower options (if they realise such a thing is possible!). How about we split

Bug#757985: kfreebsd-* release status?

2014-08-19 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 19/08/14 00:40, Cyril Brulebois wrote: [ I'm adding -release@ to the loop. I tried to refrain from mentioning my concerns in the Jessie Beta 1 announce, that's why I used a quite neutral wording, but let's be honest: kfreebsd-* is looking bad right now. ] I was drafting a quite long reply

Bug#757711: Bug#757988: kfreebsd: troubles with dhcp (configuration going away)

2014-08-19 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 14/08/14 18:32, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Now, I think there are several questions to answer: 1. What were the reasons for having arch-dependent dhcp clients? I'd speculate because udhcpc from busybox is very small, and isc-dhcp-client-udeb was about 2 MiB. It targets (currently only builds

Bug#757711: Bug#757988: kfreebsd: troubles with dhcp (configuration going away)

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-20): On 14/08/14 18:32, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Now, I think there are several questions to answer: 1. What were the reasons for having arch-dependent dhcp clients? I'd speculate because udhcpc from busybox is very small, and

Bug#757985: kfreebsd: hang with ENOSPC after a few components are loaded

2014-08-19 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 14/08/14 18:15, Cyril Brulebois wrote: [...] If a single extra udeb (or udeb size increase, which happens from time to time) is going to break kfreebsd-*, it seems to me that their status is far too brittle. The fixed-size d-i initrds had to be carefully sized for kfreebsd wheezy. We

Bug#757985: kfreebsd: hang with ENOSPC after a few components are loaded

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-20): On 14/08/14 18:15, Cyril Brulebois wrote: [...] If a single extra udeb (or udeb size increase, which happens from time to time) is going to break kfreebsd-*, it seems to me that their status is far too brittle. The fixed-size d-i

Bug#757985: kfreebsd: hang with ENOSPC after a few components are loaded

2014-08-19 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 20/08/14 01:49, Cyril Brulebois wrote: If you're trying to insinuate I/we deliberately broke kfreebsd-* by introducing partman-iscsi, [...] No, I was not insinuating that. But I am still asking: how is it that partman-iscsi is being installed into a kfreebsd d-i image (by APT I believe)?

Bug#757985: kfreebsd: hang with ENOSPC after a few components are loaded

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-20): On 20/08/14 01:49, Cyril Brulebois wrote: If you're trying to insinuate I/we deliberately broke kfreebsd-* by introducing partman-iscsi, [...] No, I was not insinuating that. But I am still asking: how is it that partman-iscsi is

Bug#757985: kfreebsd: hang with ENOSPC after a few components are loaded

2014-08-19 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-20): But I am still asking: how is it that partman-iscsi is being installed into a kfreebsd d-i image (by APT I believe)? I'd expect it to be uninstallable due to missing dependencies. Could that be a bug, or is it a known limitation? Thanks.

Bug#757985: kfreebsd: hang with ENOSPC after a few components are loaded

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-20): But it *is* also relevant here. Each udeb in our image takes up space for the extracted files, but also I suspect _considerable_ space in cdebconf data. Addressing this may already fix the ENOSPC error, and if we can keep the anna excludes

Bug#757985: kfreebsd: hang with ENOSPC after a few components are loaded

2014-08-19 Thread Steven Chamberlain
I've finished testing these hypotheses: On 20/08/14 03:14, Steven Chamberlain wrote: I think all we need to do is add the expected-uninstallable packages to /var/cache/anna/exclude That works. I think on each architecture, any uninstallable udeb (according to

Bug#757711: Bug#757988: kfreebsd: troubles with dhcp (configuration going away)

2014-08-19 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org (2014-08-20): On 14/08/14 18:32, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Now, I think there are several questions to answer: 1. What were the reasons for having arch-dependent dhcp clients? I'd speculate because