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Since I upgrade my whole system to Jessie, the following line in my daemon.log
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Setting up a project with:
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File
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File setup.ml, line 1, characters 0-1:
Packaging is done and available in pkg-ocaml-maint repository
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-ocaml-maint/packages/ocamlrss.git;a=summary
But don't have enough time to dedicate for a long time package
maintenance, if someone wants to pick it, use the initial packaging.
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* Package name: ocamlrss
Version : 2.0
Upstream Author : Maxence Guesdon
* URL : http://zoggy.github.com/ocamlrss/
* License : LGPL + BSD
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description : RSS
Hi,
2012/4/27 Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org
On 04/26/2012 02:07 AM, Sylvain Le Gall wrote:
extlib and camomile both exports UChar and doesn't agree on this
interface. This prevents to use pgocaml with any packages that uses
batteries (e.g. sqlexpr).
FWIW, I don't think building
extlib and camomile will remain.
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packages
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Hello,
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 09:14:35PM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote:
Package: unison-gtk
Version: 2.32.52-1
Severity: normal
Hello
Looks like unison-gtk is not usable if unison is not installed.
But unison is not listed in the dependency list.
Could you add this dependency ?
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* Package name: ocaml-sqlexpr
Version : 0.2.3
Upstream Author : Mauricio Fernandez
* URL : http://github.com/mfp/ocaml-sqlexpr
* License : LGPL-2.1 with OCaml linking exception
Hello,
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 01:20:24PM +0100, Agustin Martin wrote:
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 11:56:11AM +0100, Sylvain Le Gall wrote:
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* Package name: atd
Version : 0.9.2
Upstream Author
Hello,
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 08:39:54AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
Hi Sylvain,
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 11:52:26AM +0100, Sylvain Le Gall wrote:
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: tophide
Version : 1.0.0
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: caml2html
Version : 1.4.1
Upstream Author : Martin Jambon
* URL : http://martin.jambon.free.fr/caml2html.html
* License : GPL-2
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
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Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: tophide
Version : 1.0.0
Upstream Author : Martin Jambon
* URL : http://martin.jambon.free.fr/ocaml.html
* License : BSD3
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
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Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: atd
Version : 0.9.2
Upstream Author : Martin Jambon
* URL : http://oss.wink.com/atd/
* License : BSD3
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description : Syntax for cross
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Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: atdgen
Version : 1.0.1
Upstream Author : Martin Jambon
* URL : http://oss.wink.com/atdgen/
* License : BSD3
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description : Code generator
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* Package name: biniou
Version : 0.9.1
Upstream Author : Martin Jambon
* URL : http://martin.jambon.free.fr/biniou.html
* License : BSD3
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sylvain Le Gall gil...@debian.org
* Package name: camlmix
Version : 1.3.0
Upstream Author : Martin Jambon
* URL : http://martin.jambon.free.fr/camlmix/
* License : BSD3
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sylvain Le Gall gil...@debian.org
* Package name: camltemplate
Version : 1.0.2
Upstream Author : Benjamin Geer
* URL : http://camltemplate.forge.ocamlcore.org/
* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sylvain Le Gall gil...@debian.org
* Package name: cppo
Version : 0.9.0
Upstream Author : Martin Jambon
* URL : http://martin.jambon.free.fr/cppo.html
* License : BSD3
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description : Cpp
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: easy-format
Version : 1.0.0
Upstream Author : Martin Jambon
* URL : http://martin.jambon.free.fr/easy-format.html
* License : BSD3
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: yojson
Version : 0.8.1
Upstream Author : Martin Jambon
* URL : http://martin.jambon.free.fr/yojson.html
* License : BSD3
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: ocaml-deriving
Version : 0.1.1a
Upstream Author : Jeremy Yallop
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/deriving/
* License : MIT
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: xstrp4
Version : 1.8
Upstream Author : Gerd Stolpmann
* URL : http://projects.camlcity.org/projects/xstrp4.html
* License : MIT
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sylvain Le Gall gil...@debian.org
* Package name: ocaml-inifiles
Version : 1.2
Upstream Author : Eric Stokes
* URL : http://homepage.mac.com/letaris/
* License : LGPL-2.1
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sylvain Le Gall gil...@debian.org
* Package name: mikmatch
Version : 1.0.2
Upstream Author : Martin Jambon
* URL : http://martin.jambon.free.fr/micmatch.html
* License : BSD3
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sylvain Le Gall gil...@debian.org
* Package name: ocaml-inifiles
Version : 1.2
Upstream Author : Eric Stokes
* URL : http://homepage.mac.com/letaris/
* License : LGPL-2.1+
Programming Lang: OCaml
Description
seems to distribute freetype.mli to access freetype.
Maybe he wants to keep oFreetype internal.
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* Package name: ocaml-extunix
Version : 0.0.1
Upstream Author : ygrek, Sylvain Le Gall, Stephane Glondu
* URL : http://extunix.forge.ocamlcore.org/
* License : LGPL-2.1 with OCaml
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* Package name: ocaml-data-notation
Version : 0.0.3
Upstream Author : Sylvain Le Gall
* URL : http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/odn
* License : LGPL-2.1 with OCaml linking exception
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* Package name: ocaml-expect
Version : 0.0.2
Upstream Author : Sylvain Le Gall
* URL : http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/ocaml-expect/
* License : LGPL-2.1 with OCaml linking exception
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* Package name: oasis
Version : 0.2.0
Upstream Author : Sylvain Le Gall
* URL : http://oasis.forge.ocamlcore.org/
* License : LGPL-2.1 with OCaml linking exception
Programming Lang
.
When you say you contacted upstream, you talk about ocaml-ssl or
ocaml-dbus?
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On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 12:08:51PM +0100, Gregory Bellier wrote:
Hi,
2010/11/9 Sylvain Le Gall gil...@debian.org
When you say you contacted upstream, you talk about ocaml-ssl or
ocaml-dbus?
I meant ocaml-dbus.
Try upstream of ocaml-ssl. Maybe he will be more helpful
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* URL : http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/ocamlify
* License : LGPL-2.1 with OCaml linking exception
. (e.g. when using Lwt)
See attached patch for a proposed solution.
I thought about it while I release OUnit 1.1.0. It will probably make it
into 1.2.0.
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On Wednesday 03 November 2010 15:34:26 Sylvain Le Gall wrote:
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thanks
Hello,
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 03
, it will also appear in the
other file. You don't have this effect with copies. If the remote file
is not an hardlink, there is no point making the local file an hardlink.
Are you really sure about this feature? Could you explain to me how you
expect it to work?
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On 19-10-2010, Sylvain Le Gall gil...@debian.org wrote:
Try to cc the bug as well as the mailing list (for the record).
On 17-10-2010, Sylvain Le Gall gil...@debian.org wrote:
On 16-10-2010, Guillaume Yziquel guillaume.yziq...@citycable.ch wrote
assumptions over interface Curl
A binNMU should be scheduled to solve this bug.
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nmu cduce_0.5.3-2+b2 . ALL . -m rebuild to update curl dependency
This should solve also close 599284.
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now, is to create a patch that adds the feature
you need (i.e. the new output_strings functionality). And submit it to
the BTS of the extlib project.
http://code.google.com/p/ocaml-extlib/issues/list
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-libvirt_0.6.1.0-2+b1 . ALL . -m Rebuild to update ocaml-gettext
dependency
This will solve #596842
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=596842
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version of libfileutils-ocaml-dev :
libgettext-ocaml-dev (= 0.3.3-1+b1) depends on missing: -
libfileutils-ocaml-dev-c2hd0
I just send a binNMU request.
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call linux32 chroot rather than simply
chroot in post-install.sh.
I attach the patch that I used to succesfully perform the install.
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Same error here. The problem arise with lpstat and
system-config-printer-applet (python program launched by gnome).
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Tags: upstream
To reproduce the bug:
- mkdir -p .gnome2/planner/python
- cd .gnome2/planner/python
- wget http://git.gnome.org/browse/planner/plain/python/python-demo.py
- planner
This bug is upstream
Hello,
Sexplib has a function sexp_of_big_int and big_int_of_sexp, which means
that Big_int is required. The findlib's META file agreed.
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On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 03:41:08PM +0200, Andreas Romeyke wrote:
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is released ;-)
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is required.
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On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 03:34:57PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
On 27/05/2010 22:12, Sylvain Le Gall wrote:
Package: libllvm-ocaml-dev
Version: 2.6-9
Severity: normal
Tags: patch
The patch attached fix this bug.
Isn't it better to put the META file
Package: libllvm-ocaml-dev
Version: 2.6-9
Severity: normal
Tags: patch
The patch attached fix this bug.
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Package: gnome-keyring
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Removing libpam-gnome-keyring solve the problem. I use the same version
for libpam-gnome-keyring as gnome-keyring (see my former mail).
I reopen the bug because I think there is still a problem.
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This would allow to make a clear distinction between the two entry in
the menu (this is not the case today).
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Hello,
I just read this bug report and I have exactly the same kind of problem.
I have just updated my system.
I have tried in xfce and gnome.
Any suggestion ?
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Same problem here
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, I get
$ /usr/share/mdadm/checkarray
checkarray: I: no redundant arrays present; skipping checks...
I think it is normal, since I only use a RAID0 device, however the exit
code should be 0.
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What tool did you use to detect it? Or at which line is the difference?
(8859-1 and utf-8 should be almost compatible).
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a backtrace for this. However, this can be
quite hard to get.
If you are able to create a simple script that set everything up and
generates the bug, I can try to see if I can get the backtrace and be
more precise than a simple End_of_file error.
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Hello,
Theses symlinks point to the latest stable version of unison, not the
version of unison in Debian stable.
This is explained in unison-latest-stable in the README.Debian file of
the package.
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:29:42PM +0200, Olivier Schwander wrote
if
you want.
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a low popcon
- has no rdepends
- has not been updated since years
- always has problems building on some architectures, which gives extra
work to pkg-ocaml-maint
Could you please remove numerix package ?
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 07:47:07PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Source: mtink
Version: 1.0.16-2
Severity: serious
User: debian...@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qa-ftbfs-20100211 qa-ftbfs
Justification: FTBFS on amd64
Hi,
During a rebuild of all packages
willing to create this package.
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Package: dbconfig-common
Version: 1.8.43
Severity: normal
Tags: patch
Hello,
/usr/share/dbconfig-common/dpkg/config (l113):
if [ $DEBIAN_FRONTEND = noninteractive || $RET != true ]; then
it should be
if [ $DEBIAN_FRONTEND = noninteractive ] || [ $RET != true ]; then
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to the inability to send mails with ssmtp, I was not able to
detect that there was a problem.
I think this is a quite big issue that should be upgraded to
severity:grave (but this is my POV).
Thanks for maintaining ssmtp, this is a great tool
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(but cannot find other projects). A SELECT group_id
FROM user_group WHERE role_id = 1, should help to detect this kind of
thing.
There is a possibility that this bug is not related to upgrade but of DB
reloading...
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APT prefers
a mention in NEWS.Debian or README.Debian.
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APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.31-1-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
printer anymore so I have no more interest in
maintaining the package.
The last upstream release was made in 2007.
Contact me so that I can provide you with a snapshot of my svn
repository, if you want to have full history of the package.
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Package: dh-ocaml
Version: 0.9.1
Severity: normal
For package libbin-prot-camlp4-dev, I must add a
OCAML_DHOCAML_FLAGS += --runtime-map libbin-prot-camlp4-dev:-
To make dh_ocaml generate the right dependencies.
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-ocaml. Please update to dh-ocaml 0.9
and you'll see the compatibility went away.
The fix is simple (rename your include) and follow the various guideline
you can find here:
http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/OCamlTaskForce/DhOCamlTransition
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it is an empty file.
I google-d a bit and don't find any good solution (except with chattr
but I am not sure it is a good solution).
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. The
viewer now use gmerlin-avdec and is excellent (video and audio are
perfect). So don't waste time to try to solve the no sound in editor,
jump to not-yet shipped gmerlin-avdec package and build openmovieeditor
using dev darcs repository (works nice as of today 2009/09/04).
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line)
It is not possible to install a sid chroot without installing libsepol1.
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Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-amd64 (SMP w/3 CPU cores)
Locale
releases.
For stable and oldstable, already done.
lenny: 1:2.2.0-4+lenny1
etch: 2.20-8+etch1
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Hello,
I fix this bug yesterday in the git repository. Please contact me before
working on it next time (I am not yet on VAC). I appreciate your work
but I am sorry it is a duplicate (and not using the same approach, since
I split the patch).
Thanks anyway.
Regards
Sylvain Le Gall
On Sat, Aug
your
buildd (on 13/07/2009) and official amd64 buildd (on 02/07/2009).
FYI, I can reproduce the bug but I have not the least idea why the
configure is invoked a second time. I would like to gather some data
before trying to find a solution.
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ps: Is the difference of CDBS
is a CDBS bugs (which trigger an ocaml-gettext
bug).
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Package: libcryptokit-ocaml-dev
Version: 1.3-10
Severity: normal
cryptokit must be installed with zlib1g-dev to be able to compile native
executable.
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APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1
etch (2.20-8).
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Package: pycaml
Version: 0.82-9
Severity: wishlist
Hello,
pycaml distribute .cmi file without any readable .mli or .ml file. at
least pycaml.ml should be installed and used to generate an API
reference documentation using ocamldoc.
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Sylvain Le Gall
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for
oUnit, since oUnit function is not very interesting for debugging.
Thanks for your work
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Sylvain Le Gall
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Hello,
You will find attached to this mail a patch to add extra information
(from Michael Ekstrand).
It uses pa_macro to keep compatibility with 3.11 ocaml version.
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ps: if you want to discuss further this patch with Mr Ekstrand and I,
keep the bug number in CC
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