Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Karl Berry
Maybe the better fix would be renaming all the nodes in coreutils.texi to comply with this convention? I think the node names should stay as they are. The convention is either Invoking xxx or xxx invocation. http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Manual-Structure-Details.html I

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Jim Meyering
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry) wrote: Maybe the better fix would be renaming all the nodes in coreutils.texi to comply with this convention? I think the node names should stay as they are. The convention is either Invoking xxx or xxx invocation.

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:34:36PM -0600, Karl Berry wrote: What this report really says to me is that the dir file was not correctly created by the Debian (or whatever) installation process. Oh, without a doubt. The debian install-info routine (IIRC) predates the gnu install-info, and hasn't

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 09:30:51PM +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: Yes, that is the root of the problem. It came down to a dispute about which of two install-info programs should be installed. I'm amazed that it's lasted so long (it seems it's been at least two years, now). I don't think it's a

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Andreas Schwab
Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another reason to use the more verbose command is to ensure that info reliably displays the right node. Even with a proper installation, info pr doesn't display the desired node (as you probably recall). Instead, info simply displays the first node it

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Karl Berry
jimm info simply displays the first node it finds with a name matching jimm pr. In my case, it is currently the PreScript node of a2ps.info. What? That makes no sense to me at all. Info doesn't look inside every info file randomly looking for nodes to match. It has to be in a dir

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Karl Berry
mstone The debian install-info routine (IIRC) predates the gnu install-info, That wasn't my understanding, but I never actually researched it. I was not aware of any Debian ii at the time that rms wrote GNU ii (I was maintaining Texinfo by then -- 1996), but then, I probably wouldn't

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 06:51:54PM -0600, Karl Berry wrote: mstone The debian install-info routine (IIRC) predates the gnu install-info, That wasn't my understanding, but I never actually researched it. I was not aware of any Debian ii at the time that rms wrote GNU ii (I was

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Michael Stone
I've given up on the debian install-info ever being fixed. My new thought on this is to simply modify the man page to say something like: SEE ALSO The full documentation for ls is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the info and ls programs are properly installed at your

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Jim Meyering
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've given up on the debian install-info ever being fixed. My new thought on this is to simply modify the man page to say something like: SEE ALSO The full documentation for ls is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the info and ls programs are

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Jim Meyering wrote: Michael Stone wrote: The full documentation for ls is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the info and ls programs are properly installed at your site (on debian they aren't), the command info ls should give you access to the

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Jim Meyering
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: I think it should be the normal case for all of the coreutils commands and not the special case just for pr. Why not have this done uniformly? info coreutils ls invocation To me that looks nice enough to be used for all of the commands. Most people

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Jim Meyering
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: Jim Meyering wrote: Michael Stone wrote: The full documentation for ls is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the info and ls programs are properly installed at your site (on debian they aren't), the command info ls

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 06:09:27PM +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: Another down side: it requires web access. Yup. What do you think of info coreutils ls? It doesn't work for info coreutils pr (because info matches the pr in the earlier Printing text node, but I suppose I could special case that

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Jim Meyering on 1/26/2008 11:39 AM: | | I've just applied this: | | 2008-01-26 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Emit info coreutils 'PROG invocation' into the man page, | rather than just info PROG. The latter would

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Jim Meyering
Eric Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Jim Meyering on 1/26/2008 11:39 AM: | | I've just applied this: | | 2008-01-26 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Emit info coreutils 'PROG invocation' into the man page, | rather than just info PROG. The latter would often fail

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: I think it should be the normal case for all of the coreutils commands and not the special case just for pr. Why not have this done uniformly? info coreutils ls invocation That might work. Mike Stone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Michael Stone wrote: Frankly, I suspect that a whole lot of people would rather have a web interface anyway--there aren't many who think the info interface is all that friendly... Unfortunately then there is the problem of upstream documentation and downstream stable release programs being out

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 01:12:13PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Unfortunately then there is the problem of upstream documentation and downstream stable release programs being out of sync with each other. There would be the potential for bts reports from users saying such and such a feature is

Bug#388684: coreutils: info ls opens the man page, not the info documentation

2006-09-21 Thread Chris Moore
Package: coreutils Version: 5.97-5 Severity: normal man ls tells me that info ls should give me full documentation, but it just shows me the man page again. This may be related to these bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=244658 (basename)