Bug#500965: This bug is causing real problems now

2014-05-05 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Fri, 02 May 2014, Santiago Vila wrote: severity 500965 normal thanks For a lot of years this has not been a big problem, but now Yahoo and others are using a policy called DMARC (built on top of DKIM and SPF) and at least Yahoo is actually rejecting messages failing these kind of

Bug#500965: This bug is causing real problems now

2014-05-05 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 2 May 2014, Alexander Wirt wrote: God no. DMARC is just broken by design. We should no in any way support it. We don't have to support DMARC as such, it would enough if lists.debian.org didn't send messages having DKIM signatures that do not verify. OTOH, if we are going to boycott

Bug#500965: This bug is causing real problems now

2014-05-02 Thread Santiago Vila
severity 500965 normal thanks For a lot of years this has not been a big problem, but now Yahoo and others are using a policy called DMARC (built on top of DKIM and SPF) and at least Yahoo is actually rejecting messages failing these kind of digital signatures. The following text comes from

Bug#500965: This bug is causing real problems now

2014-05-02 Thread Don Armstrong
Control: retitle -1 Do not append footers to messages with DKIM headers On Fri, 02 May 2014, Santiago Vila wrote: For a lot of years this has not been a big problem, but now Yahoo and others are using a policy called DMARC (built on top of DKIM and SPF) and at least Yahoo is actually rejecting

Bug#500965: This bug is causing real problems now

2014-05-02 Thread Santiago Vila
El 02/05/14 19:07, Don Armstrong escribió: Control: retitle -1 Do not append footers to messages with DKIM headers On Fri, 02 May 2014, Santiago Vila wrote: For a lot of years this has not been a big problem, but now Yahoo and others are using a policy called DMARC (built on top of DKIM and

Bug#500965: This bug is causing real problems now

2014-05-02 Thread Santiago Vila
El 02/05/14 19:07, Don Armstrong escribió: However, an interesting alternative possibility might be to just not attach footers to messages which contain DKIM headers, as we already do for messages which are signed. If you do this, I would suggest that you put the Archive info in the header in

Bug#500965: This bug is causing real problems now

2014-05-02 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 02 May 2014, Santiago Vila wrote: Hmm. Can you elaborate on that? Do you consider that if I sign a message and you want to modify it, am I to blame that you can't modify it? Or else: If you modify it anyway, am I to blame that the signature does not verify anymore? You're to blame if

Bug#500965: This bug is causing real problems now

2014-05-02 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 11:51:43AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 02 May 2014, Santiago Vila wrote: Hmm. Can you elaborate on that? Do you consider that if I sign a message and you want to modify it, am I to blame that you can't modify it? Or else: If you modify it anyway, am I to