Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2015-01-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Norman Carl Freudenberg, le Tue 06 Jan 2015 12:13:12 +0100, a écrit : I am using kdm and fluxbox and still get the same problem (kde programs take up to 2min to start). With QT_ACCESSIBILITY=0 in the startup script of fluxbox the problem is fixed. I tried to reproduce this but

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2015-01-11 Thread Paul Gevers
On 11-01-15 17:54, Samuel Thibault wrote: Again, could you try to reduce service_start_timeout in /etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf? I guess the unit is ms, which indeed makes 12000 two minutes... No idea if this is a contribution to this bug, but if it is really 12000 (ms) than it is still 12

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2015-01-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Gevers, le Sun 11 Jan 2015 20:34:58 +0100, a écrit : On 11-01-15 17:54, Samuel Thibault wrote: Again, could you try to reduce service_start_timeout in /etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf? I guess the unit is ms, which indeed makes 12000 two minutes... No idea if this is a contribution

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2015-01-11 Thread Norman Carl Freudenberg
Well the bug is still there for me. Either QT_ACCESSIBILITY=0, gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface toolkit-accessibility false OR removing qt-at-spi is fixing it. Lowering service_start_timeout to 500ms in /etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf (and restart kdm) doesn't reduce start up time

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2015-01-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Norman Carl Freudenberg, le Tue 06 Jan 2015 12:13:12 +0100, a écrit : I am using kdm and fluxbox and still get the same problem (kde programs take up to 2min to start). Could you try to reduce service_start_timeout in /etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf? I guess the unit is ms, which indeed

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2015-01-06 Thread Norman Carl Freudenberg
Hello, I am using kdm and fluxbox and still get the same problem (kde programs take up to 2min to start). With QT_ACCESSIBILITY=0 in the startup script of fluxbox the problem is fixed. Maybe of interest: WIthout QT_ACCESSIBILITY=0 there are always two KDE Accessibility symbols in my tray (I am

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-11-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: severity -1 important Hello, lightdm-gtk-greeter has been fixed, both in Debian with a small hack, and upstream with proper at-spi termination. I believe the severity of this bug can thus be downgraded to important, since it will not show up in any normal conditions any more. Samuel

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-10-19 Thread pasky
Source: qt-at-spi Version: 0.3.1-4 Followup-For: Bug #762672 Control: severity -1 critical Dear Maintainer, I have ventured to set the severity to critical as I agree this bug is pretty ugly since it breaks unrelated software on the system and uncovering the cause is highly non-trivial. In my

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-10-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
pa...@ucw.cz, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 19:19:34 +0200, a écrit : In my scenario (MATE + KDE apps), QT programs actually start, but with about two minute delay. And the breakage was not due to lightdm (it happenned with both gdm3 and lightdm) I'm very surprised by this happening with gdm3 too, I'd

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-10-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 20:12:33 +0200, a écrit : pa...@ucw.cz, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 19:19:34 +0200, a écrit : But it seems much more reasonable to me to just not make it hang for 1-2 minutes when no accessibility API can be contacted. :) I agree. I'm however wondering how much

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-10-19 Thread Petr Baudis
Hi! On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 08:12:33PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: pa...@ucw.cz, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 19:19:34 +0200, a écrit : In my scenario (MATE + KDE apps), QT programs actually start, but with about two minute delay. And the breakage was not due to lightdm (it happenned with both

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-10-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Petr Baudis, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 20:24:25 +0200, a écrit : However, the picture clearly is more complicated. Right now, I have lightdm session without lightdm's at-spi running anymore and since I do not have gnome-orca and its dependencies installed, clearly qt apps shouldn't be able to

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-10-19 Thread Petr Baudis
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 08:46:01PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Petr Baudis, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 20:24:25 +0200, a écrit : However, the picture clearly is more complicated. Right now, I have lightdm session without lightdm's at-spi running anymore and since I do not have gnome-orca and

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-10-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Petr Baudis, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 20:57:26 +0200, a écrit : Not sure how comes, since at-spi as lightdm is still running, but a second instance running with my uid comes up fine... That's the idea: managing to shutdown the processes left behind will probably be not trivial, so my patch just drops

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-10-03 Thread Udo Richter
I've made another, even more severe observation. I'm running a rather mixed setup using lightdm, xfce4-session and kwin as window manager, started via the session Client0_Command way. One of the issues I recently had was a freeze at session startup, disallowing any login unless I reverted to

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-10-02 Thread Daniel Franke
I confirm that I've encountered this same problem after upgrading from wheezy to testing, and that removing qt-at-spi solves it. It seems to me that this bug deserves critical severity, on the basis that it completely breaks unrelated packages just by being installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-09-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Just for the record, this only happens with environment variable QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1 Also, that actually happens because of #760740, reported upstream as https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1366534 Perhaps we can make qt-at-spi at least cope with it less badly. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-09-25 Thread Udo Richter
Also, from reading the upstream bug report, I tried killing the dangling at-spi processes at-spi-bus-laun and at-spi2-registr, and that fixed it too. The processes seem to respawn after killing, and the new instances seem to work fine for the session. Cheers, Udo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-09-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Udo Richter, le Fri 26 Sep 2014 00:11:27 +0200, a écrit : Also, from reading the upstream bug report, I tried killing the dangling at-spi processes at-spi-bus-laun and at-spi2-registr, and that fixed it too. The processes seem to respawn after killing, and the new instances seem to work fine

Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run

2014-09-24 Thread Alberto Fuentes
Package: qt-at-spi Version: 0.3.1-4 Severity: normal new xfce-task recommends orca that depends on this After installing it, several programs refused to start: vlc, virtualbox, clementine, amarok, vlc,... I had orca installed in the past... so I purged qt-at-spi and reinstalled again. After