(I guess the last email was the disagree email, and this one is the
positive one, idk, I just missed those two points)
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 04:15:07PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 10:34:47AM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 04:34:23AM
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 04:15:07PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 10:34:47AM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 04:34:23AM +0300, Aleksey Tulinov wrote:
> > > systemd-inhibit --what="shutdown" --mode="block" /internal/path/to/dpkg $@
> >
> > Let's
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 10:34:47AM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 04:34:23AM +0300, Aleksey Tulinov wrote:
> > systemd-inhibit --what="shutdown" --mode="block" /internal/path/to/dpkg $@
>
> Let's try this again: We run dpkg multiple times. We need to run dpkg
> up to
пт, 5 июн. 2020 г. в 11:34, Julian Andres Klode :
> This is a best effort thing, there's nothing sensible we can do if it
> fails, except for logging a warning, and that does not help a lot. We
> don't want to issue an error obviously because you still want to be able
> to upgrade the system if
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 04:34:23AM +0300, Aleksey Tulinov wrote:
> пт, 5 июн. 2020 г. в 00:30, David Kalnischkies :
>
> > I mentioned already that this is implemented in libapt to apply to ALL
> > apt-based clients equally. A cron-job is not effected by aliases nor is
> > a python script (using
пт, 5 июн. 2020 г. в 00:30, David Kalnischkies :
> I mentioned already that this is implemented in libapt to apply to ALL
> apt-based clients equally. A cron-job is not effected by aliases nor is
> a python script (using python-apt). It isn't even realistic that you
> alias all "normal" libapt
On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 09:24:22PM +0300, Aleksey Tulinov wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 17:36:07 +0200 David Kalnischkies
> wrote:
>
> > As Julian already said, it is "just" used for its dbus communication
> > implementation. We don't require systemd to be your init or to be even
> > functional.
On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 09:24:22PM +0300, Aleksey Tulinov wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 17:36:07 +0200 David Kalnischkies
> wrote:
> > As Julian already said, it is "just" used for its dbus communication
> > implementation. We don't require systemd to be your init or to be even
> > functional. So I
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 17:36:07 +0200 David Kalnischkies
wrote:
> As Julian already said, it is "just" used for its dbus communication
> implementation. We don't require systemd to be your init or to be even
> functional. So I guess proposing an alternative which a) works equally
> well and b)
Hi David,
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 6:03 PM David Kalnischkies wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 12:53:45AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > It's not about not being available in normal use, it's because switching the
> > library's implementation is fragile -- especially if systemd's prerm fails
>
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 12:53:45AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> It's not about not being available in normal use, it's because switching the
> library's implementation is fragile -- especially if systemd's prerm fails
> which it's notorious to. This will make apt fail, and apt happens to be the
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 09:23:01PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 08:22:33PM +0200, Andreas Messer wrote:
> > Would it make sense to use dlopen() to dynamically load libsystemd when
> > needed
> > and avoid the hard dependency on libsystemd? If systemd is installed,
Control: tag -1 wontfix
Control: severity -1 wishlist
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 08:22:33PM +0200, Andreas Messer wrote:
> Package: apt
> Version: 1.8.2
> Severity: normal
>
> I observed a linkage dependency on libsystemd. This was unexpected for me
> since I wouldn't expect a package manager
Package: apt
Version: 1.8.2
Severity: normal
I observed a linkage dependency on libsystemd. This was unexpected for me
since I wouldn't expect a package manager depend on it. A package manager should
be as lean as possible.
Having reviewed the code, the only function using libsystemd is used to
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