Bug#526854: hal: HAL should not require PolicyKit

2009-05-04 Thread Michael Biebl
severity 526854 wishlist tags 526854 wontfix thanks Fredrik Tolf wrote: Package: hal Version: 0.5.12~git20090406.46dc48-2 Severity: important I think that it is a bad thing that HAL started depending on PolicyKit in the latest versions. PolicyKit introduces a whole new, parallel security

Bug#526854: hal: HAL should not require PolicyKit

2009-05-04 Thread Fredrik Tolf
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 09:52 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: I have not researched it in detail yet, so I don't really know if it's a good So you are basing your request on FUD? I don't think so. What I meant by not researching was whether the solution of splitting it into two packages

Bug#526854: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#526854: hal: HAL should not require PolicyKit

2009-05-04 Thread Michael Biebl
Fredrik Tolf wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 09:52 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: I have not researched it in detail yet, so I don't really know if it's a good So you are basing your request on FUD? I don't think so. What I meant by not researching was whether the solution of splitting it into

Bug#526854: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#526854: hal: HAL should not require PolicyKit

2009-05-04 Thread Fredrik Tolf
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 21:06 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: That basically reads, like you are missing proper documentation. Have you installed policykit-doc and read the documentation provided there (best read with devhelp)? [...] We invented groups like plugdev/netdev/powerdev in HAL, to

Bug#526854: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#526854: hal: HAL should not require PolicyKit

2009-05-04 Thread Fredrik Tolf
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 23:12 +0200, Fredrik Tolf wrote: What I do think is a bad idea is installing policykit by default, as a hard dependency of HAL. Just in case I wasn't clear enough, my argument is this: Without PolicyKit, I had to take explicit action in order to grant privileges to users,

Bug#526854: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#526854: hal: HAL should not require PolicyKit

2009-05-04 Thread Martin Pitt
Fredrik Tolf [2009-05-04 21:37 +]: Just in case I wasn't clear enough, my argument is this: Without PolicyKit, I had to take explicit action in order to grant privileges to users, while with PolicyKit, I have to take explicit action in order to *not* grant privileges to users. That's not

Bug#526854: hal: HAL should not require PolicyKit

2009-05-04 Thread Fredrik Tolf
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 23:57 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Fredrik Tolf [2009-05-04 21:37 +]: Just in case I wasn't clear enough, my argument is this: Without PolicyKit, I had to take explicit action in order to grant privileges to users, while with PolicyKit, I have to take explicit action

Bug#526854: hal: HAL should not require PolicyKit

2009-05-03 Thread Fredrik Tolf
Package: hal Version: 0.5.12~git20090406.46dc48-2 Severity: important I think that it is a bad thing that HAL started depending on PolicyKit in the latest versions. PolicyKit introduces a whole new, parallel security system, and it does not seem to be well-known how it works or how to properly